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Sorry, but this pen looks fake to me.

Haven't seen this pattern in a bicolor version and never an engraving on the tip. Also the engraving within the cap band looks "not Montblanc like".

And for the price: too cheap to be real but too expensive for a faked pen.

Axel

Montblanc collector since 1968. Former owner of the Montblanc Boutique Bremen, retired 2007 and sold it.
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Hi, doesn’t look good and one of many on eBay. You should make claim through eBay and do not send back because they will just sell again to someone else. Good luck and sorry this didn’t work out better.

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I have opened a claim via paypal and the vendor asked me to sent it back and then he will pay me back... i hope this works...can I ask refund without sending back?

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When you open a claim you can state that it's a fake. You don't have to return it and the refund will appear....eventually

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When you open a claim you can state that it's a fake. You don't have to return it and the refund will appear....eventually

 

Wise words.

I always abide with Axel's say. I, also think it looks a bit shoddy for MB?

 

But, don't you need to be 100% certain that it's a fake, before you use it as grounds for refund etc?

I don't know much about ballpoints - the finish looks poor on this one?

But, I couldn't swear either way, on the current evidence.

 

hansvdc: Have you Googled the serial number?

 

Good luck

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What happens if someone claims a genuine pen is fake, what steps do eBay take before automatically refunding and letting the buyer keep the item?

 

In other words how easy is it for a dodgy buyer to claim a genuine item is fake and get their money back and get to keep the genuine item.

 

I know they will gives a very quick refund on none deliveries if no tracking number is provided by the seller at the time of sending. What are they like for fakes.

 

I know I once had a not as described item from China and they refunded me and told me to keep it as it was too expensive to post it back to China using their postal label system.

 

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You tick the box that it is a fake but you also have to write details of exactly why you think it's fake in the box which is reviewed by ebay. So yes, you do need to be certain. If you cannot be certain but still have concerns about the pen, the right thing to do is to open a case stating you think it is a fake but cannot be certain and the seller has offered a full refund on return, which is what you intend to do. This process covers you from an unscrupulous seller who promises a refund and never delivers it. Unfortunately there are also unscrupulous buyers who will try to game the system, but ebay does give the seller the right of response.

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I think that it has been sold in 2013 but the booklet has been printed in 2016.. :yikes: .as you can on the right side from attachement and when I google the serialnumber I see fake.....and seen his feedback he has sold different MB's...fake?

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This is a fake, it is fake in as much as those with a little knowledge such as me, call it out as a fake, but to get a definitive its a visit to MB Boutique I suppose and ask them. It is so frustrating to see so many dodgy pens on eBay and on principle I would do my best not to send this back for him/ her to sell again. eBay are disinterested in taking any action, I forget how many I have reported and they continue to sell without any interruption. Sure as anything this is fake, but I dont think this is going to convince eBay or Paypal. Good luck though.

1950s Silver Rings, 1962 and 1985 Montblanc 149, Montblanc III a, 136, 234,5 252, 342, 344, plus some modern too....

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Sorry, but this pen looks fake to me.

Haven't seen this pattern in a bicolor version and never an engraving on the tip. Also the engraving within the cap band looks "not Montblanc like".

And for the price: too cheap to be real but too expensive for a faked pen.

I agree. Looks like they did a loose barley pattern on steel trying to mimic the geometric series. The seller even used pictures and prices of geometric series pens in the listing. And then there's that tip...never happen.

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...snip...

 

...when I google the serialnumber I see fake.....and seen his feedback he has sold different MB's...fake?

 

Do you mean there are many pens with that same number?

If so, there is your evidence, for your claim.

There should only be one Montblanc pen with your serial number.

 

Good luck.

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