(Lamy Safari) The Depth Of Bottom Hole

[spets]

Hi, nice meeting you.

Im newbie of FPN. I hope I can share and get many useful information of Safari.

 

Few days ago, I bought three old Safaris; yellow, red, blue. These all have black clips.

I guess the pens are 4.gen.

 

Recently, I found one difference among the pens.

The depth of bottom hole of yellow one is shallow than any other Safaris that I have.

 

You guys have any idea about this? I attached pictures

From left, old red, old blue, old yellow and new yellow.

 

As you can see, Old yellow has shallow depth of hole.

[1nkulus]

Interesting observation. IMO, just a design tweak/die change.

 

[Astronymus]

Try to blow through it. You'll notice the younger generations have an open bottom to prevent suffocation in case the barrel is swallowed. However one might manage that...

[spets]

Try to blow through it. You'll notice the younger generations have an open bottom to prevent suffocation in case the barrel is swallowed. However one might manage that...

It seems to be one part! I cannot disassemble the barrel.

Moreover, I cant find any evidence that the pen is early version than 4gen!!! Lol

Edited April 15, 2019 by spets

[spets]

Interesting observation. IMO, just a design tweak/die change.

 

 

Yes!! Interesting!

[sentience]

I have a near-complete collection of Safaris, and in my collection all of these have the shallow, closed-off bottoms:

 

• First-generation Terracotta
• Second-generation Alpin White (gloss)
• Fourth-generation Alpin White (gloss)
• Fourth-generation Griso Grey
• Fourth-generation Blue/Sky (black clip)
• Fourth-generation Red/Hot (black clip)
• Fourth-generation Yellow/Safari (black clip)

 

The earliest model that I have with the open bottom is the 2006 Flame (orange, red clip, red dot cap).

Edited April 15, 2019 by sentience

[spets]

I have a near-complete collection of Safaris, and in my collection all of these have the shallow, closed-off bottoms:

 

• First-generation Terracotta
• Second-generation Alpin White (gloss)
• Fourth-generation Alpin White (gloss)
• Fourth-generation Griso Grey
• Fourth-generation Blue/Sky (black clip)
• Fourth-generation Red/Hot (black clip)
• Fourth-generation Yellow/Safari (black clip)

The earliest model that I have with the open bottom is the 2006 Flame (orange, red clip, red dot cap).

Thank you.

 

As you said, my old yellow one might be manufactured before 2006 and the other old ones manufactures between 2006 and 2009.

Thank you!

Edited April 16, 2019 by spets

[Astronymus]

The barrel cannot be disassembled. It's one molded part - with all bottoms.

[spets]

The barrel cannot be disassembled. It's one molded part - with all bottoms.

Sorry, I misunderstood. There is no any gap in the hole through that wind can pass.

There might be 8 small holes in the hole of younger Safari.

Edited April 16, 2019 by spets

[christof]

The barrel cannot be disassembled. It's one molded part - with all bottoms.

 

I have older Safaris which barrels are two part molded - barrel and bottom plug.

[Astronymus]

 

I have older Safaris which barrels are two part molded - barrel and bottom plug.

Seriously? I didn't know that. What does it look like from the inside?

[spets]

Seriously? I didn't know that. What does it look like from the inside?

Here is the famous link about the generation of Safari.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/90367-lamy-safari/

You can see the autopsy of 3-gen Safari.

The barrel seems like be disassembled.

Edited April 16, 2019 by spets

[Astronymus]

Here is the famous link about the generation of Safari.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/90367-lamy-safari/

You can see the autopsy of 3-gen Safari.

The barrel seems like be disassembled.

I see. I only own a 2nd generation pen and newer ones.

 

I guess the one-part solution was neccessary to make the Vista possible.

[christof]

Seriously? I didn't know that. What does it look like from the inside?

 

Like this:

 

LAMY Safari barrel anatomy by c_m_z, auf Flickr

 

I once had to do a scientific examination to find out from which side it could be knocked out....

(saved a NOS Terrareds life)

 

c.

Edited April 16, 2019 by christof

[Astronymus]

Oh, interesting. I only studied the modern version for my 3D model.

[spets]

Interesting pics.

From these replies,I think that the early Safari has shallow bottom hole with barrel plug and the barrel plug was removed from 4 gen. but still had shallow bottom hole.

From around 2006, the hole depth became deeper with small 8 holes.

Edited April 17, 2019 by spets

[Astronymus]

The round "button" is now connected to struts inside the barrel. The Vista reveals it. The modern Safaris use the same molds.