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Lamy Safari - converter and ink in hand. Now what?


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#21 cancinc

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 23:53

i find the bulleted instructions helpful, but have a few additions after successfully filling my converter the first time. If the parts aren't explained, it takes a few moments to realize what's being discussed.

>the part meant to be twisted is the red end of the converter.
>a second point to make is that twisting the red end moves a piston up and down (depending upon the direction of rotation). I recommend getting a feel for this prior to placing the nib into a bottle of ink.
>a final point is that you ensure you push the converter entirely into the pen--you know it's in it's final position as there are two plastic tabs that fit into two grooves on the pen & snap into place when the
converter is in it's final spot.

-ensure the piston is twisted down & as close to the nib as possible
-place the nib all the way up into the bottle of ink
-slowly, twist the red end of the converter so the piston moves closer to the red end
-you will begin to see ink draw up into the converter
-rotate the red end until the piston is at the top of the converter (as far as it will travel)
-slide the barrel of the pen back on & screw into place
-wipe clean with the appropriate towel
-write away (although you may want to consider closing the bottle--my toddler has a knack for spilling things, so i try to be as explicit with instructions as possible)


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#22 yourmanpann

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 12:06

A quick note on the procedure of inserting a cartridge in Safari.

The Lamy converter has two small protruding bits that are supposed to keep the converter body from rotating when filling. These should go into the shallow grooves on the section that are positioned 90 degrees away from the ink window, not into the wider ones that form part of the ink window. Despite knowing this, I managed to fit my converter the wrong way and can see those knobs when checking the ink level. Got a little carried away... <img src="http://www.fountainp.../headsmack.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":headsmack:" border="0" alt="headsmack.gif" />

If you fit it the wrong way, nothing bad will happen. Thus you may notice this only weeks later. Well, I just have to reseat the converter when changing ink next time.

Thanks very much for this information! I recently purchased my second Safari, along with an ink converter (first Safari uses cartridges), and when I had everything together it felt like the converter was "too tall"; the barrel would sometimes unscrew on its own in my pocket. Just checked and my converter was installed 90 degrees out of phase. All better now.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 03:54

I love how people keep bumping this thread. The OP now has 6000+ posts

#24 CarlosCaligrafia

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:05

I love how people keep bumping this thread. The OP now has 6000+ posts

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 22:19

more like 11K, but you'd be surprised how many have trouble eyeing the small slots which allow the converter to seat correctly. Safari is generally trouble free once this is understood.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:56

more like 11K, but you'd be surprised how many have trouble eyeing the small slots which allow the converter to seat correctly. Safari is generally trouble free once this is understood.

Are those slots also on the Z26 Lamy converter?
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:52

there are cartidge refills too !

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 15:26

more like 11K, but you'd be surprised how many have trouble eyeing the small slots which allow the converter to seat correctly. Safari is generally trouble free once this is understood.

Are those slots also on the Z26 Lamy converter?


The slots are on the pen, not the converter. The two dots on the converter match the tiny slots on the pen.

I just took mine apart to double check, and bah-humbug, cannot reinsert it correctly Posted Image The Diamine matches my nailpolish, howeverPosted Image Ist time I tried reinserting when full of ink, and 100% see the issue of not being fully inserted, ink will flow (gush) out of the feed if you advance the piston, but with all that air will not flow out of the nib. This pen works 100% so is totally incorrect seating of the converter.





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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:40

I'm having a slight issue with my Lamy Safari. I tried using the converter for it for the first time (never used converters or bottled ink before), and found that when I had my nib completely submerged, and twisting the plunger up...nothing happened, or would only draw a small amount of ink with the plunger already unable to go any further. What am I doing wrong? Does anyone know where the ink is drawn up from? I was using a brand new bottle of J. Herbin ink if that helps.

Even after drawing up some ink, nothing would come out of the nib. I twisted the plunger down and just got a big blob of ink on my scratch paper, and the ink kept getting lighter and lighter...to the point where I had to wait for it to come down the nib. I never had any issues with my safari pen until now, so I'm thinking that it might be the ink (J. Herbin: Orange Indien).

I am just about to refill the pen again by just dipping in the converter (even though I'm a tad concerned that I will be making a mess when pushing in the converter in the pen with the little nobs in the sockets)...

Any suggestions/clarification would be perfect!

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:59

If I'm not mistaken, the ink is drawn into the little square hole at the base if the feed, which means submerging the nib right up to the section, or slightly above the bottom edge of the section. You want the little hole to be "underwater" (underink?). Also, make sure the converter is seated tight against the section. Assuming the plunger is already down, turn the screw knob on the converter clockwise at a steady pace. Sometimes the ink will come up bubbly, in which case I usually push the ink back out and redraw it back in making sure the pen is deep enough into the ink.

Try filling the whole converter to see if that makes a difference.

Don't forget to wipe the end of the section when you wipe the nib. If you don't wipe it with the cloth, you WILL do it with your fingers. I prefer the cloth. ;)

I don't know if I've told you anything you do not know, but I hope this helps.

Edited by N2theBreach, 21 November 2012 - 05:12.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:38

Thanks N2theBreach! I had the little square completely submerged, and still nothing would come up into the chamber. When it finally did (after the 5th try), the ink wasn't bubbly...I guess that's a plus for me. :vbg: I triple checked everything as I was a bit nervous and ended up with very orange fingers and paper towel. :blush: Here's hoping this time things will be better?

Oh, and I noticed that when my ink levels came down in my converter (this was a 2-3 days after filling), I noticed that there was some condensation inside the chamber (I don't know where that came from). This is okay, right? It won't dilute the ink? I mean my ink was really light already...

Thanks!

Edited by Journaling, 21 November 2012 - 05:39.







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