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The Many Faces Of Sailor Nano Sei-Boku

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#1 by_a_Lady

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:27

I bought this ink a couple of months ago, intrigued by its robust qualities and smooth flow. However, when it finally arrived at my doorstep, the colour was nothing like what I've seen in reviews - instead of a gorgeous rich dark blue it's a muted grey teal. There is some shading, but it never comes out in writing, and neither does the sheen, both of which would have salvaged the ink for me. But I absolutely hate it this way and only use the ink for a bigger writing project that will require me to spend a lot of time outdoors and in sub-ideal conditions; I kind of hope to use it up that way.

 

But I'm conflicted what to do after that. I really like the colour that I thought it would be, and since I've seen other users get that exact colour out of it, I'm led to think that there must have been either a slight formula change or a variant batch - the question is only which is the "standard" hue.

 

Sooo, if anyone is up for it, I'd like to do a wandering ink comparison letter! I think the most important things would be to include the date and place of purchase, though date of manufacture would obviously be most handy (but I don't know how we could find that out). Each new recipient will add a short paragraph from Pride and Prejudice, written with different nibs if you like, then sent on to the next person. The last one with a good scanner and colour calibration skills does the Lord's work. :D

 

 

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:47

I had this ink on my list of ' inks to buy' but recently I've seen reviews which show an entirely different colour to the older reviews I'd seen. I wonder did they change it at some point?



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 13:45

Yeah. Muted grey teal's about right for me as well. Also disappointed. I blame myself for not getting a sample first. 1.1 Jowo nib. Not what I'd call blue black. Maybe it needs a little Kiwa-Guro.


Edited by Karmachanic, 02 April 2019 - 13:50.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 14:34

I had this ink on my list of ' inks to buy' but recently I've seen reviews which show an entirely different colour to the older reviews I'd seen. I wonder did they change it at some point?

 
I think so too but hope otherwise.
 
Although there is now Sou-Boku in the Nano line-up, which seems to be a concession on Sailor's part that Sei-Boku wasn't much of a blue-black to begin with (even without the weird teal anomaly). That ink looks much darker than what I thought Sei-Boku would be, but I'm willing to keep it in mind as a last resort. Because the Nano inks are actually pretty well-behaved inks; more than well-behaved, they are smoother than many of the regular dye inks I own, and I wouldn't want to eliminate them from my collection if there wasn't another option.
 
 

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Edited by Bobje, 27 April 2019 - 03:13.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 15:24

Did you get any participants for your wandering letter idea? I'd be willing to participate in that but there has to be a minimum thershold of contributors to get the process to kickoff.

And I don't know how I could find the manufacture date of my sei-boku. Plus the fact that Ive since decanted all of that ink into a nalgene bottle for easier storage and space economy. Would that disqualify me?

Ive transferred the sticker label to the new container so if the date of manufacure can be found on the label, then we're in luck.

Edited by pepsiplease69, 02 April 2019 - 15:27.


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 18:14

I'd be happy to contribute a writing sample. I was also unpleasantly surprised by how my bottle turned out - "greyish" blue, at least from memory (haven't inked anything with it in a while). Looked too much like those old silver blue gel pens from grade school.

Edited by flyingpenman, 02 April 2019 - 18:15.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 19:44

Count me in.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 20:03

I have held off trying Sei-Boku -- just for the reason Dominique complained about.  Too many "blue-black" inks are really dark teal, or grayish teal.  And some of them are aIso *very* paper dependent as well -- I had people at a pen club meeting a few years ago absolutely convinced that a pen filled with Waterman Mysterious Blue was actually inked up with something green (and I was going "Nope!  I know what's in this pen, and it's *DEFINITELY* WMB...."

I'm curious about Sou-Boku, but at the moment a lot of places here in the States it's out of stock, and I definitely want to get a sample of it before buying a full bottle.  Especially since it's a pigmented ink.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 22:43

Sometime last year I bought a bottle of Seiboku based on what I thought it looked like. I put it in a TWSBI Diamond 580 and hated it. So I got a bottle of Souboku, put that in the 580, and now I have something I like. It's not as dark as I'd prefer, but it's a decent color with pleasing shading from a broad nib, and it flows well. And I don't have to worry about my family history project washing away in a summer shower.

 

I have no used for the Seiboku so maybe I will try mixing a few drops of Kiwa Guro in with it. That may help.



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 23:01

I used a cartridge of Sei-Boku a while back and liked it enough that I bought a bottle but it hasn't made it into a pen since (too many other inks to try). The color showed a bit differently depending on the type of paper, consistent with pictures of the ink found online, and I would call it a blue-black. I will note, the pictures online have a much wider range of colors than I experienced. I did see pretty strong shading and a little sheen on some papers. 

If I recall correctly, the ink was also a little dry so performance could be totally different if used with a dry nib. 

Looking at my ink rotation, I think Sei-Boku will be inked up in the near future and I can compare ink from a bottle to the cartridge I used earlier. 



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Posted 09 April 2019 - 23:10

This inks appearance is highly paper- and pen-dependent. It can look matte grayed tealy blue with no shading on my checks, it can look more vibrant and have high shading on coated paper, etc. While wet, the teal component is more noticeable. When the ink dries, it loses some vibrancy and some of the teal hue. To get it to look dark, you need a wet writer.

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Posted 06 May 2019 - 21:58

I will participate. 


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Posted 13 May 2019 - 16:10

I would love to participate.


Sometime last year I bought a bottle of Seiboku based on what I thought it looked like. I put it in a TWSBI Diamond 580 and hated it. So I got a bottle of Souboku, put that in the 580, and now I have something I like. It's not as dark as I'd prefer, but it's a decent color with pleasing shading from a broad nib, and it flows well. And I don't have to worry about my family history project washing away in a summer shower.
 
I have no used for the Seiboku so maybe I will try mixing a few drops of Kiwa Guro in with it. That may help.

May I ask how Sei-Boku affected your 580? Did it stain?

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Posted 13 May 2019 - 18:48

I would love to participate.


May I ask how Sei-Boku affected your 580? Did it stain?

 

The Seiboku washed out easily and left no staining anywhere. I used nothing more than water.



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Posted 15 May 2019 - 01:19

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 01:20

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 01:22

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:39

To nudge this again, I think it would be useful to use more than one kind of paper while also limiting ourselves to a few for shipping reasons.
Which paper would you like to see?
I would appreciate Oxford's Optik Paper.

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