Mb Baby No. 00 Safety Fountain Pen 18 Kr. How Much Would Be A Reasonable Price To Buyone Of Them?

[Chris26]

Hello, I am looking for a baby safety pen double zero nib 18 KR Montblanc, But there is a vast range of prices that goes from 2200 USD up to almost 30000 USD . For example this one or this other or the cheaper I found. Am I missing somthing I do not know? why that big difference between them? and finally how much would be a reasonable price to buy a baby safety 18KR No. 00 nib Montblanc Pen? Thank you in advance for your answers.

Edited January 17, 2019 by Chris26

[Parker51]

The difference largely in this case is in regard who is selling each pen and the assurances they each give. Buying from an established seller who has expertise and stands behind the item they are selling often costs more than buying from someone who is simply moving merchandise. So, are you willing to pay for white glove service? Especially if the seller has a very high price on what they sell?

And, Sometimes sellers such as this who have a rare item in exceptionally good condition will price the item so as to keep it in their inventory for the buyer who may want that pen and does not care about the price. They know they can't replace it as one can easily do with a currently produced item and selling the rare pen for a very high profit may also be a rare opportunity for them, one they can wait on.

[Chris26]

I know what you mean some how, but a more than 10 times difference between them,for the same model ?. I don't get it when I wanted my first MB I Asked for advise here in a post. finally I decided to buy a 149,and there was a range of price but there was a why. For example the MB149 first generation made about 1950 or the current model MB 149 have difference prices,but there is a reason and for example there are difference prices for a first generation of the 149 but there is some sense about the range according to cosmetic issues but like I said a more than 10 times higher price difference I have never seen it. The same happens with the second I bought a writers edition one.I am far away from being an expert but when it comes to MB I do not know if am overpaying especially when it comes to antiques or vintage MB fountain pens.

[CS388]

When an item is rare and there are only a few examples, it is difficult to fix a price guide. Who knows when (or if) you will see another. Rarity has its own value system. As such, sellers can ask what they want for these items (whether they will get that price, or not, is another issue)

 

I guess you will have to decide how much you want one and let that dictate how much you are willing to pay. Once you find the one you want, negotiations can begin.

 

Saw one of these at a pen show, once. Beautiful piece of work.

 

Good luck.

[Sarrelangue]

Hi Chris, 

If you notice, both pieces are double zero but different in size.

The first one, the less expensive one,  is the smallest Montblanc in the world aingnd, 

from my 25 year experience as a collector, the hardest to find.

 

Second pen left to right is the one I am mentioning offered on ebay.

 

Some pieces to compare sizes:

 

 

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o625/IncurableCollectors/DSC07304_1.jpg

 

 

<img src=

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o625/IncurableCollectors/DSC07311_2.jpg

 

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o625/IncurableCollectors/DSC07314_3.jpg

 

 

And one of the references I use for prices are, what I paid for the pen, market value, condition, difficulty to find it and of course a fair offer the buyer is ready to pay.

 

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o625/IncurableCollectors/DSC07343_3.jpg

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Eda

 

 

[Chris26]

Thanks for your answers, I see more and less how market value works when it comes with a very rare pen. Eda I was not aware that they not were the same model,i thought that the three links of the pens I put were the same one, the expensive one, the less expensive one, and the cheaper one. The method you use to put price a pen sounds very clever.

[Sarrelangue]

The less expensive one is The One you should make an offer on !!!!!!

 

 

Best regards!

 

 

Eda

[Chris26]

You can bet on it !!! if I do not find another cheaper, In fact I found it but the nib is engraved 0, not 00, the pen looks like the same size but different price. Is there any difference between the No. 0 and the No. 00.nib? My conclusion after the research I did on the net looks like the No.00 is more rare than the No. 0. Is that correct, isn´t it? but I was a bit confused about the whole thing like If I were missing something with that vast range of prices. Also when it comes to german makers I do not have to much idea, like I said before only I got two MB pens and to buy the MB149 and the MB writers edition was easer to find out how much I should pay for them. Best wishes

[Sarrelangue]

I am not an expert but will try to share some basics learned from the real experts (Tom, Lutz, etc ) regarding 00 nibs.

 

I understand all these can ¨wear¨ the 0 or 00 nibs:

 

 

Montblanc baby 00

 

MB 00 Long

 

MB 0

 

MB 0 Long

 

 

 

And from Collectible Stars I - 1908 - 1947; by Stefan Wallrafen and Jens Roesler:

 

 

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o625/IncurableCollectors/IMG_3443.jpg

 

 

Here is another one that might interest you :

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/264146568241

 

 

Saludos!

[penparadise]

A few facts that one should know before one goes for one of these pens:

 

1.) 99% of these overlays (especially all pens with a chain hanger) are not made by Montblanc but by the distributor of Montblanc in Italy just for the Italian market.

For me it makes them less valuable than the ones made in Germany.

2.) All Italian overlays have an engravementof K and R but with a "small" difference of two dots: "K.R." and "KR".

K.R. means gold plated, KR means solid gold.

Many sellers "oversee" this little difference and forget to mention the two dots.

 

And by now everybody should have recognized that the prices of "Airline International" are far away from a realistic value. I have no idea why Eddie Kalmann runs this policy. Perhaps he wants to keep his inventory for showing off? But if he really sells the pens for these ridiculous high prices I call it a fraud.

 

About the "00" and "0" size: The double zero pens are smaller and have a bigger demand but the zero pens are rarer.

 

 

 

BTW: very nice collection, Eda

[Sarrelangue]

Axel,

 

Thank you sooo much for the valuable info!!!!!

 

And thanks on behalf of the babies

 

Best regards

[Sarrelangue]

By the way Chris,

 

I have some more 0 and 00 safeties I was going to offer on ebay, let me know if you are still interested.

 

edachavez@gmail.com

 

Saludos,

 

Eda

[kawuska]

Hello Chris,

some of these pens offered on ebay with exorbitant prices are there only for publicity and without intention to sell.If I were you I wouldn't pay more than 600-800$ for black ebonite safety in zero size.Finding zero in lever filler is more challenging.

[Chris26]

Thanks Kawuska, now I got a reference price to start with the reserching of one of them. However I was looking for a 18 KR rolled gold, I guess they were a little expensive than the ebonite ones.

[penparadise]

... I was looking for a 18 KR rolled gold ...

 

I don't want to be a nitpicker, bit "18 KR" means solid gold. — "18 K.R." means rolled gold.

[Chris26]

Thank you for the clarification. I have forgotten the dots, I meant K.R. one. For sure the KR solid gold would be a lot more expensive.