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#1 EdwardSouthgate

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 05:50

Just won this and was wondering if anyone knows their history . Have read that they were Dutch made but the nib is marked Brussels . 

 

 

 

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 05:54

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 05:55

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#4 EdwardSouthgate

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 05:56

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#5 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 14:19

Parker never trademarked the Arrow, in someone used it before. Others used it before and after.

 

 

Is a great looking pen....and you know more about it than me. Looks late '30's due to the 'shorter' final.

 

Your collection is rapidly becoming :notworthy1: :thumbup: :drool:  :puddle: :happyberet:

Keep it up.

 

IMO those pens made off of mandrels are so, so much nicer than those P-51 and later pressed plastic pens.


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 24 December 2018 - 14:21.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 15:02

Well, it seems we are after the same kind of pens... first Arengo, then another German and now this Belgian pen...

I have a very curious pen made out of three: Swell (French), Rally nib (France) and a Belgian Pelletier clip...

While looking for information about the three different parts I discovered (at the Belgian pen show last September 30th), it is a Belgian Pen.

 

It is a beautiful pen, not convinced the clip is the right one but it goes beyond my knowledge...



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Posted 24 December 2018 - 16:52

Azuniga , 

 

How about posting some pictures of yours ??  I have read a short post or two on some of their later (?) pens but this is the first older one I have seen .  It was said in another thread that they were a small company that went bankrupt about 1951 or so . The other few pens I have seen pictures of have been bullet ended which to me says mid to late 50's pen or later . 

 

 Since there does not appear to be a lot of info posted on this brand it might rate a sticky post so info can gather as it trickles in .  I am getting more interested in brands that are not well known but made really fine pens , I already have several and hope for this to be another . It's pretty enough but to be a fine pen it has to have a certain feel in the hand and manners of a certain level just like a woman . Like my grandmother always said when I brought a gal home for the first time " Beauty is only skin deep but Ugly's to the bone " .



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Posted 24 December 2018 - 17:01

Bo , 

 

  Seller said some Flex but also called it a medium . Looks awful keen tipped and long tined for anything more than a fine before the flex kicks in . Need to get Francis to post whatever he knows about this brand , he mentions it in his introduction post in 2005 so I am hoping he has further knowledge he can impart .

 

  Look also at the two British pens I posted last night.

 

  Eddie


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Posted 24 December 2018 - 22:46



Azuniga , 

 

How about posting some pictures of yours ??  I have read a short post or two on some of their later (?) pens but this is the first older one I have seen .  It was said in another thread that they were a small company that went bankrupt about 1951 or so . The other few pens I have seen pictures of have been bullet ended which to me says mid to late 50's pen or later . 

 

 Since there does not appear to be a lot of info posted on this brand it might rate a sticky post so info can gather as it trickles in .  I am getting more interested in brands that are not well known but made really fine pens , I already have several and hope for this to be another . It's pretty enough but to be a fine pen it has to have a certain feel in the hand and manners of a certain level just like a woman . Like my grandmother always said when I brought a gal home for the first time " Beauty is only skin deep but Ugly's to the bone " .

 

In this thread Francis mentions Pelletier half way down of the page…

 

http://www.fountainp...tier#entry40962

 

Here are four images; of my strange combination, I loved it and it was not expensive so I got it thinking one day I will be able to reconstruct it into three pens…

I am also into what some name "second brands" since the first ones have become so expensive…

 

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I will take a look to the English pen you mentioned...



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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:50

If that red beauty writes as good as it looks I would leave it as it is . Originality is nice but what I value most is that it writes like I want it to and looks good doing it . I am not a true collector . I just like to write and want to be able to use a different pen every day for a year and not have to use the same one twice in a year unless I just want to . 


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 14:31

A collector has three...the lucky has one or two. and a few more fine singletons.

 

It maters only that the pen writes well.....that it is still beautiful is a bonus.


German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 14:54

A collector has three...the lucky has one or two. and a few more fine singletons.

 

It maters only that the pen writes well.....that it is still beautiful is a bonus.

 

Yup ! Merry Christmas .



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Posted 25 December 2018 - 16:51

If that red beauty writes as good as it looks I would leave it as it is . Originality is nice but what I value most is that it writes like I want it to and looks good doing it . I am not a true collector . I just like to write and want to be able to use a different pen every day for a year and not have to use the same one twice in a year unless I just want to . 

 

It writes a good as it looks, I love it and use it often.

Most probably it will stay as it is, since it is very hard to find what is missing. First time I heard of Swell, I have an advertising of Rally and it looks great; now thanks to this thread and your pen I know now how a Pelletier looks like... by the way, the inferior blind cap form is very similar to the one of Grief.







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