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#1 sakib

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 14:10

I am still looking for the perfect black ink. As I write mostly on cheap paper, behavior is very important.
I was willing to try out Blackstone barrister Black.
Has anyone used it recently. I want to know how it behaves in cheap paper especially.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 14:15

J. Herbin Perle noire


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 14:18

J. Herbin Perle noire



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Posted 19 November 2018 - 14:18

How does it perform on very cheap paper

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 14:49

Aurora, except the bottle isn't helpful

 

if the blue wasn't so purply I might never have bought another brand of ink

 

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 15:01

Ordinarily I use Aurora black because of its flow and appearance properties.

You mentioned that you were looking for an ink which performs well on cheap paper. For that I would recommend Sailor Kiwa-Guro pigmented nano black ink. Its not a cheap ink but I can bet the horses that it will come through for me every time on cheaper paper.

You might also hear suggestions about noodlers black and noodlers x-feather. My personal experience has not been stellar with both inks. I know a lot of people love them.

#7 nepniatnouf

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 15:15

How does it perform on very cheap paper


J Herbin's Perle Noire is surprisingly good on cheap and more absorbent paper. Not perfect but overall one of the best blacks and probably the best among the darkest black inks available. Good saturation, moderate wetness/flow, great lubrication, and works well in every pen I tested. I've been using it two of my three daily pens for over six months.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 15:52

Ordinarily I use Aurora black because of its flow and appearance properties.

You mentioned that you were looking for an ink which performs well on cheap paper. For that I would recommend Sailor Kiwa-Guro pigmented nano black ink. Its not a cheap ink but I can bet the horses that it will come through for me every time on cheaper paper.

You might also hear suggestions about noodlers black and noodlers x-feather. My personal experience has not been stellar with both inks. I know a lot of people love them.

I was really disappointed with Noodlers black.probably I got a bad batch, and it was grey.
I love kiwa guro.just wish it we're a bit darker.
How does Aurora perform on cheap paper

Edited by sakib, 19 November 2018 - 15:53.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 15:54

J Herbin's Perle Noire is surprisingly good on cheap and more absorbent paper. Not perfect but overall one of the best blacks and probably the best among the darkest black inks available. Good saturation, moderate wetness/flow, great lubrication, and works well in every pen I tested. I've been using it two of my three daily pens for over six months.

That was very helpful.thank you

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 16:02

I also like Pelikan Brilliant Black, which, as a dry ink, works very well on cheap paper.

 

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 16:04

Aurora



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Posted 19 November 2018 - 16:05

The two most famous blacks are Perle noire and Aurora's Black. IMO the "best" black is MB's Permanent Black. It behaves well, even on cheap paper


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 16:22

How does Aurora perform on cheap paper


I actually have never tried it on cheap paper. It has very good flow and rich dark velvety appearance.

In my mind, inks which flow really well, tend to be more prone to feathering, so I only enjoy them on tomoe river or rhodia etc.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 16:33

I use the pelikan brilliant black with a fine nib, I don't have problems even with the very thin Moleskine paper (no bleed through which was very surprising, that paper is so thin that gel pen and rollerballs will bleed through like crazy).

 

Now that everybody is voting for Aurora you are making me curious to try it,

can somebody make a quick try on cheap paper?


Edited by Goldberg, 19 November 2018 - 16:38.


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 16:41

I vote Aurora too. Easy to clean out too.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 17:00

I am still looking for the perfect black ink. As I write mostly on cheap paper, behavior is very important.
I was willing to try out Blackstone barrister Black.
Has anyone used it recently. I want to know how it behaves in cheap paper especially.

 

the process relies on the paper used, nib size, ink flow, the pressure you put on it all



#17 nibtip

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 17:29

 

the process relies on the paper used, nib size, ink flow, the pressure you put on it all

And the ambient lighting



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Posted 19 November 2018 - 17:47

How water resistant/waterproof do you need the ink to be?  Haven't tried Perle Noir, but other J Herbin inks have very little water resistance (although Eclat de Saphir is safe enough for me to put in a capillary fill Parker 61).  Like sakib, I was underwhelmed by Noodler's Black, and much prefer Noodler's Heart of Darkness (dries faster and is less smudge-y).  I haven't tried some of the other recommendations.  Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black has more water resistance than I expected; my only experience with Sailor Kiwa-Guro was in a Preppy set up with the rollerball head (and it didn't work at ALL well in that pen; I have another sample to try in a fountain pen but don't use black ink a lot.

I've also tried some vintage inks: vintage Quink Microfilm Black (which -- at least in the bottles I've tried -- blue-ish undertones, but is pretty water resistant and generally well behaved) and vintage Skrip V-Black, which, IIRC, is also water resistant; but is not as black (more of a greyish-black).

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 18:47

I'm with Ruth in recommending Heart of Darkness.  It's an entirely different ink from Noodler's original Black.

 

Should Noodler's disappear before I ever get around to buying my next bottle of black ink, I'll almost certainly go for Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Black.  I used to worry if my black inks were black enough, but then I realized, the standard of comparison is a cheap black stick ballpoint, sold a dollar a dozen at big box office supply stores.


Edited by Arkanabar, 19 November 2018 - 18:48.


#20 JulieParadise

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 19:40

Perle noire is fairly waterresistant, although certainly not waterproof. It is surprisingly lightfast (I run my own little lightfastness test every month and always have it inked), it performs well in the most finicky nibs, at least for me, is affordable and not too exotic in most parts of the world, and, on top of all that, it is a gorgeous black.

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