New 3776S - Green And White

[mke]

> "It's OK for fanatics, but the pen is not cheap, and I don't think it was really necessary for me."

I can understand his feelings. I guess, I would feel the same. I have to admit, I never tried a music nib.

 

On this year's Mitsukoshi penshow, I tried for the first time a Nagahara nib and I also was not hooked from what I experienced. My feeling was "why this hype, who needs it anyway, for what"?

So, I concluded, line variation is nothing what I need, what I find necessary.

[Honeybadgers]

While this thread had me looking on Amazon.co.jp (which doesn't accept orders with Australian delivery addresses), I almost pulled the trigger on a #3776 Century 'Black in Black' with EF nib going for just under ¥5,700 and have it sent to a reshipper ... except that I was never a fan of plain ol' cigar shaped plastic 'resin' pens, especially black ones, so I ended up doing something far more foolhardy and costly. Damn, I shouldn't have looked.

 

By the way, the #3776C in black with rhodium trim fitted with a Music nib is available on Amazon.co.jp for ¥20,999. I kinda like the one-and-only review of it, though; basically the customer wasn't so impressed with how broad its minimum line thickness is, and said something like, "It's OK for fanatics, but the pen is not cheap, and I don't think it was really necessary for me.

 

Have you checked ebay for the 3776 at the lower prices in the two transparent colors? I highly recommend the soft fine in chartres blue. it's not a flex nib, but it's nice and bouncy. I also like the UEF with iron gall inks like diamine registrar's.

 

Youtube has a lot of reviews for the 3776 music nib, and most accounts are that it writes like hot buttered glass.

 

 

 

I don't think it's really your style, you seem to be all about superfine stuff.

 

The #5 pilot music nib on the custom 74 is a very unique little thing. it is tuned to really write music and asian characters (it's only tuned to write perpendicular to the page), so to make it write like a normal pen does usually require a bit of nib alignment, but it's got a party piece of being very flexible - vintage semiflex. it'll go from a 1.1 stub to about 2-2.5mm. That nib is a riot to use.

[A Smug Dill]

I highly recommend the soft fine in chartres blue. it's not a flex nib, but it's nice and bouncy.

Thanks. I already have one of those, with rhodium trim. I also have a Bourgogne with a SF nib. Three more #3776 Century pens in other designs with F nibs, and two more ordered in the past 24 hours.

 

However, ¥5,700 is significantly cheaper than what I've seen for the basic models, and I don't have one with either a UEF nib or an EF nib. I could order one in blue and gold with UEF nib for ¥5,940, and that's still a damn good price considering what is available to me buying in or ordering from Australia. Or I could just wait for the Laurel Green to come out and then come down to the 'right' price.

 

I don't think it's really your style, you seem to be all about superfine stuff.

 

The #5 pilot music nib on the custom 74 is a very unique little thing. it is tuned to really write music and asian characters (it's only tuned to write perpendicular to the page), so to make it write like a normal pen does usually require a bit of nib alignment,

I have a Pilot Custom 74 with a Music nib, and it drives me nuts so I don't use it. I don't find it very good for writing kaishu (regular Chinese script); the shapes of the strokes come out wrong.

 

At least I'm not likely to want to break it in the way I destroyed my Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with FA nib.

[Honeybadgers]

the UEF is a bit of a gamble, I would make sure I ordered one from a retailer that accepts returns and exchanges, because my first one was not ground correctly (the UEF's are almost certainly hand ground to be that fine)

 

the 74 is a fiddly nib to flex, but once I spent a few hours tuning it, I got it dialed in and it's a fantastic semiflex stub nib.

[A Smug Dill]

I appreciate the minimum line width coming out of the SF nib more than the soft semi-flexiness aspect; it's definitely finer than a #3776 Fine nib.

 

I don't need the Music nib to flex at all, the downstrokes are more than broad enough for me, but the cross-strokes aren't fine enough. I guess I was expecting it to perform more like the nib on Pilot Parallel pens, but it doesn't actually. I'm glad I didn't pay extra for a Music nib on a Platinum #3776; the price differential due the nib itself was enough to pay for the entire Pilot Custom 74 pen with Music nib.

 

I do have (at least) one pen that is capable of writing with extremely fine line width:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/339238-thinnest-line/?p=4113243

Edited November 11, 2018 by A Smug Dill

[Honeybadgers]

the pilot parallel is more of an italic. A stub will likely not give you much of a needle thin cross stroke. I tend to grind my own italics for that same reason.

[penzel_washinkton]

Platinum is getting the RGB colors so right with the 3776, Bourgougne, Shungyo, Chartres and now the Laurel Green.

If I am to get one, I would gladly take a more adventurous nib like Music.

[A Smug Dill]

The #3776 Music nib is only available on black #3776 pens – in either the Century line with screw-caps and the 'Slip and Seal Mechanism', or any other pen in the range not designated as Century but most likely has a snap-cap – and the #3776 pens with the (relatively) smooth briar barrels, as far as I'm aware. I have never seen a #3776 Bourgogne, Chartres Blue or demonstrator pen offered by the manufacturer with a Music nib, and so it's unlikely that the Laurel Green will be offered with one. If anything, you'd have a better chance if you were wishing for a Music nib on the new Chenonceau White one.

Edited November 11, 2018 by A Smug Dill

[mke]

> music nib

You guys should tell Platinum about your wishes:

http://www.platinum-pen.co.jp/contact_us/econtact.html

The more of you write, the better.

[Aramchek]

I really like the combination white and gold in fountain pens AND I really like the #3776 century model so I'm getting one. Not absolutely sure which nib though - while the UEF on my current Century is awesome, it makes the pen a stay-at-home pen since I don't want to tell people "no" when they ask if they can try it. The SF on another Platinum is really sweet, but I like variety. So, probably EF or F.

 

A few people have said they're hoping they'll eventually end up the same price as the "standard" Century pens. This is doubtful, since Platinum includes the MSRP in the product code, and the standard ones have the code PNB-10000 and the two new ones are instead PNB-13000. Not sure what the reason is for the price change since I'd expect the manufacturing cost to be the same, but maybe they felt they originally priced it too low?

 

(I want the green one as well. Darn you Platinum with your desirable products)

[penzel_washinkton]

The #3776 Music nib is only available on black #3776 pens – in either the Century line with screw-caps and the 'Slip and Seal Mechanism', or any other pen in the range not designated as Century but most likely has a snap-cap – and the #3776 pens with the (relatively) smooth briar barrels, as far as I'm aware. I have never seen a #3776 Bourgogne, Chartres Blue or demonstrator pen offered by the manufacturer with a Music nib, and so it's unlikely that the Laurel Green will be offered with one. If anything, you'd have a better chance if you were wishing for a Music nib on the new Chenonceau White one.

 

If it's not available I don't mind it. Could get the UEF instead, no big deal

[A Smug Dill]

I'm starting to have second thoughts as to whether I should just get a Chartres blue (or 'black in black') with gold trim in UEF while it's cheap to do so, to establish how much (or little) I enjoy writing with the UEF nib, so that I would actually pick a nib I enjoy for the Laurel Green (when the price is right) instead of using it as the guinea pig; chances are the Laurel Green will always be more expensive.

 

I enjoy using the F nibs, and the SF nibs (which write finer when used with a light hand), so I imagine I will enjoy using the #3776 EF nibs, but I'm not so sure about the UEF, when my goal or 'test' is being able to write Chinese in kaishu within 5mm squares while still getting 'line variation' – in that the line width varies along each stroke, to get the correct shapes expected in kaishu.

[Olya]

I really like the combination white and gold in fountain pens AND I really like the #3776 century model so I'm getting one. Not absolutely sure which nib though - while the UEF on my current Century is awesome, it makes the pen a stay-at-home pen since I don't want to tell people "no" when they ask if they can try it. The SF on another Platinum is really sweet, but I like variety. So, probably EF or F.

 

A few people have said they're hoping they'll eventually end up the same price as the "standard" Century pens. This is doubtful, since Platinum includes the MSRP in the product code, and the standard ones have the code PNB-10000 and the two new ones are instead PNB-13000. Not sure what the reason is for the price change since I'd expect the manufacturing cost to be the same, but maybe they felt they originally priced it too low?

 

(I want the green one as well. Darn you Platinum with your desirable products)

 

I think the Chartres Bleu & Burgogne & Black are set at that price to compete with Sailor's Promenade and Pilot's Custom 74 - lowest priced gold nibs to give you a cheapish sample of their gold nibs & hook you in and encourage you to buy the more expensive models. At the next price level (12000 or so) Pilot has the 91 (or does it cost the same as the 74?), the VP types (VP, Decimo, Fermo) and Sailor has the 1911 M/ Standard and the Pro Gear Slim and Platinum has... nothing. So I think they then price the other coloured 3776 Centuries at that level, to compete at every price level with their direct competition, whilst at the same time having fewer products on offer.

 

Though I can never entirely understand Platinum's pricing, as their SE/ LE and standard offer 3776 Centuries are all very differently priced and pocketing premiums for Rhodium trims and Music nibs, whilst Pilot & Sailor offer one model (& their relations, eg Sailor 1911 Standard & Pro Gear Slim) always at the same price, regardless of nib size or finish & Pilot's and Sailor's LEs & SEs aren't outrageously overpriced, sometimes costing even the same as the standard line. Their cartridges are also cheaper than Platinum's.

 

I hope Sailor introduces some more colours to their Promenade line. And Pilot to their 91 & 74. On the other hand, my wallet is happy there are no more colours!

 

That being said, the new Laurel Green 3776 Century is on my to-buy list!

Edited November 11, 2018 by Olya

[Honeybadgers]

The #3776 Music nib is only available on black #3776 pens – in either the Century line with screw-caps and the 'Slip and Seal Mechanism', or any other pen in the range not designated as Century but most likely has a snap-cap – and the #3776 pens with the (relatively) smooth briar barrels, as far as I'm aware. I have never seen a #3776 Bourgogne, Chartres Blue or demonstrator pen offered by the manufacturer with a Music nib, and so it's unlikely that the Laurel Green will be offered with one. If anything, you'd have a better chance if you were wishing for a Music nib on the new Chenonceau White one.

 

 

https://www.gouletpens.com/collections/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pens/products/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pen-bourgogne?variant=11884877840427

 

 

 

https://www.gouletpens.com/collections/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pens/products/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pen-chartres-blue-gold?variant=11884876955691

 

 

 

I'm too lazy to search for the clear one. I don't know that one exists. The other two are available on Goulet right now for an exorbitant increase over the Japanese MSRP.

 

The next model in the platinum line after the 3776 is the president. But it really does kind of start and peak with the 3776.

Edited November 13, 2018 by Honeybadgers

[A Smug Dill]

https://www.gouletpens.com/collections/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pens/products/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pen-bourgogne?variant=11884877840427

https://www.gouletpens.com/collections/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pens/products/platinum-3776-century-fountain-pen-chartres-blue-gold?variant=11884876955691

Interesting. The product codes make sense, too, in line with how Platinum normally assigns them, so they do not appear to be results of Goulet's in-house mixing and matching nibs with sections. I honestly have never seen those in any of Platinum's own or Japanese retailers' catalogues.

[Honeybadgers]

Random guess, but maybe platinum only sells the colored music nib models in markets like the US?

Edited November 13, 2018 by Honeybadgers

[A Smug Dill]

Random guess, but maybe platinum only sells the colored music nib models in markets like the US?

I think you're right.

http://platinumpenusa.com/luxury-writing/music-nib/

[grainweevil]

In the UK as well. Cult Pens has them (currently 10% off).

[Honeybadgers]

I know pilot offers one or two pens specifically outside japan. And in japan they offer different things like the steel nib 3776 or the steel nib vanishing point.

[A Smug Dill]

Steel nib #3776, as in the #3776 Balance? Couldn't you get that in North America?

 

There were some steel-nibbed, 'basic' models of Pilot Vanishing Point pens being sold in store at Peter's of Kensington here, which I've mentioned before. Not a specialist pen store per se, just a quirky local department store.