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Fake/ Counterfeit Lamy's Dialog 3 Have Arrived

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#21 Calabria

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 23:38

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 19:41

Hope it all works out.

Personally, I have no aspirations for luxury, complex mechanical, or rare pens.

For newbies who are hoping to snag a great deal, a price that is too good to be true probably is too good to be true. Buy your pens from reputable dealers. (I buy only from dealers who support FPN but thats just my low tolerance for risk.) Getting into the gray and used fountain pen market requires experience, knowledge, and not a small bit of discretionary cash that you can afford to risk. I have none of those things.
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#23 1nkulus

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 23:47

An extremely unfortunate situation.  :angry: 

I would have thought the Scala and Imporium would be comparatively easier to replicate.
Dialog 3 is a very very niche pen (heft and girth), I wonder how many pens the seller intends to shift for all the effort and cost involved?

 

Since it is not available through the popular sites/channels, you would have to know where to look.

Where is the economic benefit if it is so hard to locate?

Unlike shoes, handbags, clothing etc. the market is a lot smaller and not something your 'local' dealer would be selling.

 

Where did you buy/find it and how much did you pay, if you don't mind?
 

For newbies who are hoping to snag a great deal, a price that is too good to be true probably is too good to be true. Buy your pens from reputable dealers. (I buy only from dealers who support FPN but thats just my low tolerance for risk.) Getting into the gray and used fountain pen market requires experience, knowledge, and not a small bit of discretionary cash that you can afford to risk.

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Edited by 1nkulus, 12 November 2018 - 00:14.

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 23:29

An extremely unfortunate situation.  :angry: 
I would have thought the Scala and Imporium would be comparatively easier to replicate.
Dialog 3 is a very very niche pen (heft and girth), I wonder how many pens the seller intends to shift for all the effort and cost involved?

 
Since it is not available through the popular sites/channels, you would have to know where to look.
Where is the economic benefit if it is so hard to locate?
Unlike shoes, handbags, clothing etc. the market is a lot smaller and not something your 'local' dealer would be selling.
 
Where did you buy/find it and how much did you pay, if you don't mind?
 

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I bought it from a local but popular internet site similar to ebay.
A few days ago the seller acually deactivated the ad. He might have not known they were not original, and if I did not already have 2 other dialog 3 fountain pens, I might have believed Lamy is a crappy brand. As soon as I tried to extend the nib I realised it was not an original pen. The box and the papers fooled me big time.
I paid approximately half of the price it sells online, and fortunately I recuperated my money back, except for the shipping fees.

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Posted 13 November 2018 - 13:25

I bought it from a local but popular internet site similar to ebay.
A few days ago the seller acually deactivated the ad. He might have not known they were not original, and if I did not already have 2 other dialog 3 fountain pens, I might have believed Lamy is a crappy brand. As soon as I tried to extend the nib I realised it was not an original pen. The box and the papers fooled me big time.
I paid approximately half of the price it sells online, and fortunately I recuperated my money back, except for the shipping fees.

 

Great you got a refund.  :thumbup: 

 

Keep an eye out, I have a feeling it will be listed again after a while.

The seller just got unlucky with you, who happened to own the originals.

 

Considering, it has papers and box to match, there has obviously been a dedicated attempt at counterfeiting.


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#26 MYU

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Posted 13 November 2018 - 18:57

I'm not a LAMY Dialog hawk, but this is the first I've ever heard of a counterfeit.  I can believe it, from the photos.  There are very obvious signs of forgery.  In China, there are artisans who work for companies where they have access to the machinery and can utilize it for "off work" projects.  I have no doubt a great number of counterfeit pens and watches are made by such people.  They have no clue about their victims, as there are no doubt middle-men involved, the nefarious dealers.

 

It always amazes me how a fake can go really quite far, and then suffer some very stupid mistakes (like alignment).  You have to wonder if this was part of a prototype series that failed, and then someone thought they could still sell them.  Because from what is described, this is a "fake by facade"... meaning, trying to visually copy but unconcerned about proper function.


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Posted 24 November 2018 - 23:02

Picture wise if you post them to some place like imgur.com you can add a letter (be it l, or h for large and huge) at the end of the filename just before the extension, and it'll be small enough to embed with the image icon (where you paste the url in the dialog box). 







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