Jump to content

Celluloid Montblanc 14X : Repair Cracked / Sheared Barrel Threads


fountainbel

Recommended Posts

Hi all,

Given the thin remaining wall between the inner and outer threading, the barrel threads are prone for cracking on the aged, hence brittle celluloid.
I’ve already repaired several 149 and 146 pen by integrating a complete new barrel insert.
Being long time frustrated on the loss of the existing lined ink window when integrating a completely new barrel insert , I decided it was time to come up with a completely new - and strong! - repair approach which would allow the keep the original lined ink window.
I've tested a prototype on which I’ve used this repair approach thoroughly over the last months, so I was confident I could use it on a customers pen.
The inner and outer 4 leads threads on the new celluloid thread ring were cut manually on the lathe since I don’t have taps or dies for these "non standardized" threads.
Barrel front was slightly shortened , just removing the broken out thread spires.
Then made a 1.5mm long diameter reduction on the front outside of the barrel on which the new celluloid thread ring was fused with liquid celluloid.
Unfortunately I only had transparent celluloid available to make the threaded ring, I would have been simpler if I would have used black celluloid...
The new made threaded ring was then coated on the outside with black liquid celluloid to hide its transparency.
On the attached Photobucket link you can see a repaired Montblanc 146 pen and a sketch showing my new repair approach.
Only drawback is the lined ink window is 1.5 mm shorter as original, but the repair is nearly visible.
As always your comments and thoughts on this repair approach are most welcome !
Best regards,
Francis
Just adding a second picture to show the transparency of the (ambered) lined ink window better.
Note the repair was not finished yet on the picture, still needed to coat the threads a second time with liquid black celluloid !
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 11
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • fountainbel

    5

  • CS388

    1

  • farmdogfan

    1

  • siamackz

    1

Inspiring, as always!

 

Today I received my cracked 144 striated green back from Francis after repairs. It has turned a rather gloomy work week into one filled with hope. Thank you for your great work Francis!

My Vintage Montblanc Website--> link

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Inspiring, as always!

 

Today I received my cracked 144 striated green back from Francis after repairs. It has turned a rather gloomy work week into one filled with hope. Thank you for your great work Francis!

 

Thanks for your kind reaction Sia, wishing you many years writing pleasure with your beautiful striated 144 !

 

Attached a new picture of the finished 146 with the new threaded ring.

On this picture one can see better the ink transparency on the ambered window.

Best regards,

Francis

 

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/fountainbel/Repaired%20Vintage%20fountain%20pens/2018-10-192010.43.51.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Incredible work, without which many of these old pens would be lost.

 

Always a joy to see your handiwork, Francis.

 

thanks for sharing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks farmdogfan & CS388 for your encouraging comments, much appreciated.

I love this kind of challenging repairs, bringing these nice pens back to life makes me happy !

Best regards,

Francis 388

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is great to see another pen (pen's barrel) rescued! Great chance if parts are not available anymore.

 

It is very interesting to see such work, how you did it and the outcome.

Could you also make the threads end directly at the ink window? This would keep the original look.

 

Nevertheless great work!

 

Cheers

 

Michael

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is great to see another pen (pen's barrel) rescued! Great chance if parts are not available anymore.

 

It is very interesting to see such work, how you did it and the outcome.

 

Could you also make the threads end directly at the ink window? This would keep the original look.

 

Nevertheless great work!

 

Cheers

 

Michael

 

Thanks for your encouraging comment Michael !

 

MakIng the threads directly a the ink window is unfortunately not possible in my opinion .
The thread depth on the new thread ring would only leave 0.15mm wall thickness for the fixation fit on the barrel.
This would make the repair very weak hence….. prone for sharing.
And the barrel would also become 1.5 mm shorter…….

 

Francis
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Great result Francis according the initial broken situation, specially that you succeeded to recuperatie the original parts indeed.

It's probably also the most affordable or only way for repair. We enjoy your persistance, creativity and results... not imagine the risks and time such repairs contain !

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Great solution! compliments. I will copy this if you allow. :-)

a tiny suggestion - reduce the diameter of the section´s threads by simply cutting them again, taking off 0,5 mm allows to create the new threads a tiny bit stronger...

Tom Westerich

 

See whats newly listed on PENBOARD.DE

 

email: twesterich@penboard.de

Abruzzo/Italy and Hamburg/Germany

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Great solution! compliments. I will copy this if you allow. :-)

a tiny suggestion - reduce the diameter of the section´s threads by simply cutting them again, taking off 0,5 mm allows to create the new threads a tiny bit stronger...

 

Glad reading you like my repair approach Tom !

And no problem using this repair method for your repairs , it's for free , not patented !

Your suggestion to reduce the diameter of the section threads is surely interesting for doing the similar repair on 13X pens.

The complete filler - inclusive the cork seal - can be installed from the from the rear on the 13X pens.

On 14X pens - were the cork is to be installed from the section side after installing the filler from the back - reducing the diameter of the section threads would make installation of the cork considerably more difficult….

Francis

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Announcements


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33558
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26730
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...