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The Waterman Edson Vs The Carene


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#1 Nick_Green

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 10:08

In this video I compare the Edson and Carene Fountain Pens:

 

 


Edited by Nick_Green, 12 October 2018 - 10:34.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:18

Thanks, an interesting comparison! I have both pens and prefer the Carene - it fits my hand better but also seems better balanced and the nib is not so much of a nail as my Edson's. I like the Carene's lines and its colours better too.

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 12:38

Sorry but the filling of the Carene is vague. The OP started with a full or part full converter. The first move showed the piston being wound in and then out so the section feed was therefore already full of ink.

 

To fill a totally inkless section and converter,

 

1. Wind the piston fully in.

2. Place the nib vertical into ink bottle.

3. Wind the piston fully out. 

 

Repeat 1 and 3 a couple of times.

 

4. With the piston wound out, remove from ink bottle.

5. Invert the assembly so that the nib is pointing up. Wipe away excess ink.

6. Give the section grip a couple of finger flicks.

7. Slowly wind piston in until you see ink appear at the breather hole.

8. Place nib vertical back into the ink bottle.

9. Slowly wind the piston fully out.

10. I normally wind the piston one turn back in at this stage to prevent excess ink flow on first use.

 

Repeat 7 and 9 a couple of times, then 10.

 

Now the section and converter are both fully loaded.



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Posted 12 October 2018 - 14:47

Thanks for this! The Carène looks really nice in blue, I don't think I'd seen it in that colour before, luckily for my wallet. The Edson is a bit over the top, in design and price, but still, an interesting pen.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 16:07

The Carene is definitely the more practical of these two pens.

 

Tomorrow, I'm going to compare the Carene to the Parker Sonnet and I think this will be a rather interesting comparison, as I inked my Parker sonnet for the first time today, and I must say that I'm extremely impressed with it's performance! (The nib has allot more give than that of the Carene, and it's ink delivery is very similar.)



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:23

Sorry but the filling of the Carene is vague. The OP started with a full or part full converter. The first move showed the piston being wound in and then out so the section feed was therefore already full of ink.

 

To fill a totally inkless section and converter,

 

1. Wind the piston fully in.

2. Place the nib vertical into ink bottle.

3. Wind the piston fully out. 

 

Repeat 1 and 3 a couple of times.

 

4. With the piston wound out, remove from ink bottle.

5. Invert the assembly so that the nib is pointing up. Wipe away excess ink.

6. Give the section grip a couple of finger flicks.

7. Slowly wind piston in until you see ink appear at the breather hole.

8. Place nib vertical back into the ink bottle.

9. Slowly wind the piston fully out.

10. I normally wind the piston one turn back in at this stage to prevent excess ink flow on first use.

 

Repeat 7 and 9 a couple of times, then 10.

 

Now the section and converter are both fully loaded.

 

 

I apologise for not adequately demonstrating the inking process to be followed for this pen.

 

I made this video the properly demonstrate the process, I hope it gets your approval:

 



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 08:05

Excellent and precisely to my method.

 

Ummmm WatermAn...

 

I think the lacquer colour must be Ultramarine

 

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 10:20

Excellent and precisely to my method.

 

Ummmm WatermAn...

 

 

Sorry about that, it's fixed!



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Posted 15 October 2018 - 20:44

Ah, that's better. I was going to comment earlier but couldn't because FPN was unreachable.

 

 

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 19:12

Thank you.

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Posted 06 November 2018 - 21:53

So helpful.  I drool over the Edson -- it's my "maybe someday" pen.  In the meantime, I love and use my Carenes.  


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Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:25

So helpful.  I drool over the Edson -- it's my "maybe someday" pen.  In the meantime, I love and use my Carenes.  

 I love your Avatar, by the way, as I too have a Z3! (They're awesome little cars!)

 

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Edited by Nick_Green, 09 November 2018 - 14:20.


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Posted 17 November 2018 - 01:03

 I love your Avatar, by the way, as I too have a Z3! (They're awesome little cars!)

 

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They are the best little things, aren't they!  They've gained quite the cult following lately.

 

(Love the video with the Edson and le Serenite -- thanks!)


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Posted 18 November 2018 - 18:00

 

 

They are the best little things, aren't they!  They've gained quite the cult following lately.

 

(Love the video with the Edson and le Serenite -- thanks!)

 

 

Thanks, I hope you go ahead and get yourself an Edson! :)

 

Hang on to your car, as they will definitely become highly collectable in the future! I don't know how it is in the States, but these are becoming more and more difficult to pick up in good condition over here in SA!

 

Even though we're an insignificant country at the tip of Africa, we're one of the biggest consumers of BMW's in the world. (So at one point, there were allot of Z3's around over here.)


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Posted 19 November 2018 - 21:56

 

 

Thanks, I hope you go ahead and get yourself an Edson! :)

 

Hang on to your car, as they will definitely become highly collectable in the future! I don't know how it is in the States, but these are becoming more and more difficult to pick up in good condition over here in SA!

 

Even though we're an insignificant country at the tip of Africa, we're one of the biggest consumers of BMW's in the world. (So at one point, there were allot of Z3's around over here.)

 

As far as I'm concerned -- my little car isn't going anywhere without me.  I've had it for 19 years (second owner) and I still smile every time I drive it.  There are a handful of them around here (Boise, Idaho) and most of us will give a beep and a wave when we see each other.


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 03:41

 

As far as I'm concerned -- my little car isn't going anywhere without me.  I've had it for 19 years (second owner) and I still smile every time I drive it.  There are a handful of them around here (Boise, Idaho) and most of us will give a beep and a wave when we see each other.

 

That's Awesome!:)








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