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#1 mtbradley

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 02:55

Can someone tell me which esterbrook nib (preferably 9000 series) would be best for writing in this style? Medium stub (9314), maybe? Ordinarily I would think Hebrew or Architect, but none of their nibs are described that way.

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Edited by mtbradley, 08 September 2018 - 12:40.

Currently: Sailor Pro Gear Black/Rhodium M/F with Sailor Jentle Black; Sailor Pro Gear Yellow/Rhodium M/F with Diamine Sargasso Sea; Sailor Pro Gear Slim Sky Demonstrator/Rhodium M with Sailor Jentle Blue; Sheaffer Touchdown Imperial VIII M with Diamine Asa Blue; Lamy AL-star Ocean Blue M with Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue; Lamy Safari Red F with Sheaffer Skrip Red for grading papers; Lamy Safari Neon Yellow F with Diamine Kelly Green; Esterbrook J Blue 9668 with Noodlers Ottoman Azure; Esterbrook J Red 9668 with Diamine Red Dragon; Esterbrook J Copper 2668 with Diamine Ancient Copper; Noodler's Ahab Clear Demonstrator with Diamine Midnight; Kaweco Skyline Sport M with Diamine Grey; Staedtler Mars Lumograph HB and Tombow Mono HB

 

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#2 mtbradley

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 02:57

And in case it matters, I’m a left handed overwriter (or hooker, as some call it).

Currently: Sailor Pro Gear Black/Rhodium M/F with Sailor Jentle Black; Sailor Pro Gear Yellow/Rhodium M/F with Diamine Sargasso Sea; Sailor Pro Gear Slim Sky Demonstrator/Rhodium M with Sailor Jentle Blue; Sheaffer Touchdown Imperial VIII M with Diamine Asa Blue; Lamy AL-star Ocean Blue M with Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue; Lamy Safari Red F with Sheaffer Skrip Red for grading papers; Lamy Safari Neon Yellow F with Diamine Kelly Green; Esterbrook J Blue 9668 with Noodlers Ottoman Azure; Esterbrook J Red 9668 with Diamine Red Dragon; Esterbrook J Copper 2668 with Diamine Ancient Copper; Noodler's Ahab Clear Demonstrator with Diamine Midnight; Kaweco Skyline Sport M with Diamine Grey; Staedtler Mars Lumograph HB and Tombow Mono HB

 

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 12:45

Can someone tell me which esterbrook nib (preferably 9000 series) would be best for writing in this style? Medium stub (9314), maybe? Ordinarily I would think Hebrew or Architect, but none of their nibs are described that way. And in case it matters, I'm a left handed overwriter (or hooker, as some call it). I've cross-posted this in the Esterbrook forum. I hope that's ok.

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Edited by mtbradley, 08 September 2018 - 15:37.

Currently: Sailor Pro Gear Black/Rhodium M/F with Sailor Jentle Black; Sailor Pro Gear Yellow/Rhodium M/F with Diamine Sargasso Sea; Sailor Pro Gear Slim Sky Demonstrator/Rhodium M with Sailor Jentle Blue; Sheaffer Touchdown Imperial VIII M with Diamine Asa Blue; Lamy AL-star Ocean Blue M with Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue; Lamy Safari Red F with Sheaffer Skrip Red for grading papers; Lamy Safari Neon Yellow F with Diamine Kelly Green; Esterbrook J Blue 9668 with Noodlers Ottoman Azure; Esterbrook J Red 9668 with Diamine Red Dragon; Esterbrook J Copper 2668 with Diamine Ancient Copper; Noodler's Ahab Clear Demonstrator with Diamine Midnight; Kaweco Skyline Sport M with Diamine Grey; Staedtler Mars Lumograph HB and Tombow Mono HB

 

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 13:09

From memory 1xxx was the first rolled steel nib, not very lasting. The 2xxx better rolled steel nib was rated about 1 1/2 years of constant 8 hour a writing............should last decades in our now lack of real use days.

The 9XXX were the much more expensive 'iridium' tipped nibs made to last like all other brands some 7-10 years of constant full day writing.

 

The 8xxx nibs were much prettier 9xxx nibs. Pretty does cost a hell of a lot more. In Esterbrook was an Upper Lower Class to Lowest Middle Class pen, the rarer 8XXX nibs are expensive.

Back when Esties went for @ $15 and 2xxx nibs for $8; 9xx@ $12, a rare 8xxx nib alone was going for  @ $20-25.

 

Having gotten rid of 10 Esties some 5-6 years ago, keeping only a Copper DJ and a blue LJ, have forgotten what nibs are what. But that can be found on the Esterbrook subsection. There they can link you to the very many Esterbrook nibs.....


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 14:29

IMO, cross posting is rarely helpful.  It is discouraged because  you end up with disconnected answers.

 

I don't know of any Esterbrook nibs that will produce the Hebrew characters.  That is a rather unique nib.  You might consider buying a broad nib, and then having someone like Linda Kennedy grind it to the profile you want.  A  9314B or a 9284 would do the trick.  Or you could buy a gold nib, have it tipped to what you want and fit it into an Esterbrook collar.  Some of the Sheaffer nibs would work.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 15:37

Thanks Ron. Very helpful.


Currently: Sailor Pro Gear Black/Rhodium M/F with Sailor Jentle Black; Sailor Pro Gear Yellow/Rhodium M/F with Diamine Sargasso Sea; Sailor Pro Gear Slim Sky Demonstrator/Rhodium M with Sailor Jentle Blue; Sheaffer Touchdown Imperial VIII M with Diamine Asa Blue; Lamy AL-star Ocean Blue M with Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue; Lamy Safari Red F with Sheaffer Skrip Red for grading papers; Lamy Safari Neon Yellow F with Diamine Kelly Green; Esterbrook J Blue 9668 with Noodlers Ottoman Azure; Esterbrook J Red 9668 with Diamine Red Dragon; Esterbrook J Copper 2668 with Diamine Ancient Copper; Noodler's Ahab Clear Demonstrator with Diamine Midnight; Kaweco Skyline Sport M with Diamine Grey; Staedtler Mars Lumograph HB and Tombow Mono HB

 

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 15:57

If you're looking for a nib with a Hebrew / Architect grind - and if it doesn't *have* to be an Esterbrook - I'd recommend checking out fpnibs.com.  They have a growing range of nib options (Lamy, JoWo, Kaweco, just to name a few), and are happy to custom grind any nib they sell for a *very* competitive price.  Architect grinds are more challenging, because they have to conform to the way you hold your pen - but I've ordered 3 or 4 now from Pablo at fpnibs.com, and he's done a fantastic job each time [he requested, and I provided, a photograph of my hand holding a pen, to get the angle right].



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Posted 08 September 2018 - 19:42

I am a left handed overwriter.  I like the 9460 in mediums.  It is a medium manifold.  Writes a bit drier than other mediums, especially drier than the 9314-M Relief nib, which is a left oblique medium stubby nib.  Left oblique is cut like the slant of the toes of your left foot.  The 2312/9312 medium italic is another one I like.  The 2312 is probably the better one to use.  Not too wet, so I like it.

 

If you like mediums you might like the other Esterbrook mediums, but they are like other makers' mediums, and often too wet for me.  I don't care for running my hand into a lot of wet ink.  Of course, you can try to rein it in with drier inks.  Pelikan 4001 inks, for example.


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 19:58

Merged the topics.

 

Hope the location is OK?

 

 

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Posted 08 September 2018 - 21:08

After reading through this merged thread, I don't think any economical Esterbrook nib is likely to do.  If you can't find one, and have to have one made by retipping and grinding, it will be fairly expensive, so make sure you are comfortable with the pen it goes in.   


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Posted 08 September 2018 - 22:26

Just for chuckles, I did a search on eBay for "osmiroid esterbrook".  The earlier Osmiroid nibs fit Esterbrook holders, and they're more slanted towards calligraphy writing.  There were some left-oblique ones also.  So, I'd say give that a try.  

 

Does left-handed overwriting favor the left-oblique or the right?


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:16

Merged the topics.

 

Hope the location is OK?

 

 

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Yes! Thank you!


Currently: Sailor Pro Gear Black/Rhodium M/F with Sailor Jentle Black; Sailor Pro Gear Yellow/Rhodium M/F with Diamine Sargasso Sea; Sailor Pro Gear Slim Sky Demonstrator/Rhodium M with Sailor Jentle Blue; Sheaffer Touchdown Imperial VIII M with Diamine Asa Blue; Lamy AL-star Ocean Blue M with Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue; Lamy Safari Red F with Sheaffer Skrip Red for grading papers; Lamy Safari Neon Yellow F with Diamine Kelly Green; Esterbrook J Blue 9668 with Noodlers Ottoman Azure; Esterbrook J Red 9668 with Diamine Red Dragon; Esterbrook J Copper 2668 with Diamine Ancient Copper; Noodler's Ahab Clear Demonstrator with Diamine Midnight; Kaweco Skyline Sport M with Diamine Grey; Staedtler Mars Lumograph HB and Tombow Mono HB

 

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:25

Thanks for the input, all. I've found over time that my Sailors are my favorites, but I can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a pen dedicated to writing in Hebrew. My Esterbrooks are in regular rotation and just work so well that I thought it would be nice to have one for writing in Hebrew whenever I need to. But I don't write in Hebrew every day (but maybe if I spent the money I would? That's the kind of thinking/justifying we live on, isn't it?).

 

Anyway. Thanks again, all!


Currently: Sailor Pro Gear Black/Rhodium M/F with Sailor Jentle Black; Sailor Pro Gear Yellow/Rhodium M/F with Diamine Sargasso Sea; Sailor Pro Gear Slim Sky Demonstrator/Rhodium M with Sailor Jentle Blue; Sheaffer Touchdown Imperial VIII M with Diamine Asa Blue; Lamy AL-star Ocean Blue M with Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue; Lamy Safari Red F with Sheaffer Skrip Red for grading papers; Lamy Safari Neon Yellow F with Diamine Kelly Green; Esterbrook J Blue 9668 with Noodlers Ottoman Azure; Esterbrook J Red 9668 with Diamine Red Dragon; Esterbrook J Copper 2668 with Diamine Ancient Copper; Noodler's Ahab Clear Demonstrator with Diamine Midnight; Kaweco Skyline Sport M with Diamine Grey; Staedtler Mars Lumograph HB and Tombow Mono HB

 

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