Two Kinds Of Lamy Enthusiasts:

[ajengmd]

among those who have been able to try using or purchase a Lamy 2000, there can be:

 

1. Ones who love Lamy 2000

2. Ones who hate Lamy 2000 (but still able to love any other Lamy)

 

???

 

Any thoughts?

 

Greetings

Edited August 22, 2018 by ajengmd

[zaddick]

Maybe more along the lines of loves the triangle grip/hates the triangle grip.

[pajaro]

I think you are both right.

[jchch1950]

I love the Lamy 2000 and many other Lamy pens; Aion, Safari, etc.

[ajengmd]

Of course it's totally reasonable to still love Lamy 2000 and other Lamys.

 

I just recently stumbled across an "honest" review of Lamy 2000 where this guy (sorry forgot where I saw it) basically said, this is a basic regular fountain pen (perhaps he meant in appearance) which you can replace with a much cheaper one for writing without any qualms or problems. On the other hand, while I realize it lacks the peculiarities and uniqueness that I otherwise feel in my hand and in my writing with a japanese pen in that price range (eg. Pilot custom 74), it's really a workhorse I haven't been able to put down or replace with other pens since I got it. So I think just the fact that it's so reliable makes it a worthwhile USD 160 purchase.

 

(I myself have gone the chinese pen route, which failed in so many ways except for Wingsung 601 which delivers a sense of having a parker 51 sans the vintage price and originality)

 

 

 

I love the Lamy 2000 and many other Lamy pens; Aion, Safari, etc.

Edited August 22, 2018 by ajengmd

[Glenn-SC]

Maybe more along the lines of loves the triangle grip/hates the triangle grip.

The 2000 has a triangular grip?

 

 

among those who have been able to try using or purchase a Lamy 2000, there can be:

 

1. Ones who love Lamy 2000

2. Ones who hate Lamy 2000 (but still able to love any other Lamy)

How about those who don't care one way or the other?

Or those who hate all Lamys?

Even as a thought experiment this question doesn't work.

[zaddick]

The 2000 has a triangular grip?

 

 

How about those who don't care one way or the other?

Or those who hate all Lamys?

Even as a thought experiment this question doesn't work.

The 2000 does not, clearly. I was responding to the title about the dichotomy of Lamy fans and posited that that actual split was not 2000 or not, but triangle grip or not.

 

But the original text of the post does focus on 2000 pens so my comment is out of place in that context.

Edited August 22, 2018 by zaddick

[inkstainedruth]

I like the look of the 2000s -- but they're too heavy a pen for me.

I didn't think I could used to the triangular grip on Safaris, until someone gave me a knockoff -- a metal bodied Jinhao 599. Then the Dark Lilac LE came out a couple of years ago and it was "WAANT! Must HAAAAAVE!" (I've since added an LX when Lamy's old US distributor was having a closeout sale, and the LX was cheaper than the Safari had been....)

I don't think I could get used to an al-Star, though -- the metal flanges on the grip are SHARP! As opposed to the plastic grips on the Safari and LX (It's that d@mned German precision engineering... ).

@ Glenn-SC -- the optional questions you pose are interesting, but not really germane to the topic at hand: the thread title specifically says "Lamy Enthusiasts". So if people don't care (or hate Lamys altogether) it's completely immaterial to the discussion at hand. This thread is about people who LIKE Lamys but may or may not like the 2000 (or whom may or may not like the triangular grip on other Lamy models).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Glenn-SC]

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

Ruth, the question assumes that only binary conditions exist, either you "love" something or "hate" it.

 

And what if I do "love" two Lamy models but "hate" three others and am indifferent to the remainder?

 

I can "like", "be indifferent", "enjoy", or "tolerate" (etc. etc.) as well. There is an entire spectrum of opinions between those two extremes that apply.

There were too many alternate conditions for me to include in my original (or this) response.

[minddance]

I have Lamy 2000 in F (I will not buy another Lamy2000), Al-star and Safari and Vista. I do not love them at all. I do not hate them. I do not refund them. I do not use them often.

 

Lamy2000 pleases my eyes but not my hand; Safari and Al-star used to please my eyes but not as much these days, and I strongly dislike the triangular grip and dryout problem. However I enjoy the wetness of the 1.1mm stub nib. It makes certain inks possible to finally use, e.g. Alt Goldgrun, Scabiosa, Diamine Sepia.

 

Lamy makes me uneasy. Triangular grip or not; Lamy2000 or not - they are all an awkward existence in my collection.

[senzen]

Type 3: not on my radar either way.

[countrydirt]

I've been working on changing my pen grip and am discovering that the triangle grip of the Safari isn't very comfortable now. But my 2000 is. Go figure!

[Astronymus]

I think the triangular grip on the Safari & Co. is great.

[dibby33]

I love the triangular grip. I would love the 2000 to have it also! I have ten safaris / alstars and saving for the 2000.

[hbdk]

The 2000 is a very nice pen indeed, however, it does not fit my hand. I don't hate it but I'll never buy one. The triangular grip is perfect for me - that is why I have several Safaris- Al-stars and Vistas and will probably get more as new colours hit the market.

[pajaro]

I like the look of the 2000s -- but they're too heavy a pen for me.

I didn't think I could used to the triangular grip on Safaris, until someone gave me a knockoff -- a metal bodied Jinhao 599. Then the Dark Lilac LE came out a couple of years ago and it was "WAANT! Must HAAAAAVE!" (I've since added an LX when Lamy's old US distributor was having a closeout sale, and the LX was cheaper than the Safari had been....)

I don't think I could get used to an al-Star, though -- the metal flanges on the grip are SHARP! As opposed to the plastic grips on the Safari and LX (It's that d@mned German precision engineering... ).

@ Glenn-SC -- the optional questions you pose are interesting, but not really germane to the topic at hand: the thread title specifically says "Lamy Enthusiasts". So if people don't care (or hate Lamys altogether) it's completely immaterial to the discussion at hand. This thread is about people who LIKE Lamys but may or may not like the 2000 (or whom may or may not like the triangular grip on other Lamy models).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

Sometimes you seem to post immaterially. A human interest story in a bad jokes thread, for one. It took a while to reset. Broke the fun thought process.

[Astronymus]

Sharp flanges on an AL-Star?

[Glenn-SC]

I've had two Al-Stars and neither had "metal flanges".
Photos please?

[TSherbs]

The 2000 is a very nice pen indeed, however, it does not fit my hand. ...

My 2000 hurt my hand, so I sold it. But by no means do I "hate" it. It just doesn't work for me.

[inkstainedruth]

I've had two Al-Stars and neither had "metal flanges".

Photos please?

 

Sorry, I don't have any photos. Maybe I'm describing it badly... I think of the edges of the triangular grip as being somewhat like this, which is a "flanged mace": https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/age-of-chivalry/images/7/7f/Weapon_select_flangedmace-300x228.png/revision/latest?cb=20121008005857. (A guy I know in the SCA was demonstrating how a flanged mace works years ago at a demo, by whacking away a no longer "list-legal" metal helm, with a *definitely* not "list-legal" steel mace he'd made, and that thing was doing serious damage....)

Tried an al-Star out at a pen show a couple of years ago and I found the edges of the triangular grip too sharp to be comfortable to hold (and I have small hands and thin fingers). I *don't* have that problem with either my Safari or LX (both of which have plastic sections), nor do I with the metal-bodied Jinhao 599 someone gave me (which probably isn't quite as precisely engineered as on the German pens).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

edited for typos

Edited August 25, 2018 by inkstainedruth