Full Restoration Of A Parker 65 (Mrk 1?)

[IdaViemose]

Hi all,

 

This is my first time using this site, and I am really hoping that you can help me.

 

I am quite new to the fountain pen world, but have set out to see if I can fix or rebuild my Mum's Parker 65 (possibly Mrk 1) pen, which was given to her by my Dad during their early relationship-days.

 

The pen broke (the filling system snapped) soon after she got it, and she has kept the pieces safe ever since.

I have now disassembled it, see the images.

 

 

The questions I have are:

 

Is this a Mrk 1? I think it is, due to the grooves on the connector (see the image)

 

Is it possible to buy a VP filling system, or is there something compatible I can use? I.e. a converter?

 

I have found a new custom made converter for both the mkr 1 and mark 2/3. If I fit one of these collectors on the pen, do I then need to change the collector (the plastic thing inside the gripping part of the barrel)?.

 

I really hope that you can help me, as this is a very beloved pen.

 

 

 

I will be very grateful for any help you can give me

 

All the best from Ida in Denmark

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chrissy]

The first thing I would do is type "Repair a Parker 65" into Google and watch all of the You Tube Videos that come up then read all of the FPN posts that you are also pointed to. They will give you lots of information.

 

A VP is a different pen and neither that section nor filling system is compatible with the Parker 65.

 

You might find parts for your Parker 65 on ebay.

[IdaViemose]

Hi Chrissy,

 

 

Thank you so much for your time and answer.

 

I have tried to find answers on youtube and here, but I only seem to be able to find for the Mrk 2 and 3 - which my Mum's does not seem to be.

 

About the VP system - I really don't know anything, but I found that the Mrk 1 had the VP system (or at least one similar to the VP system) from this home page: https://parkerpens.net/parker65.html

 

 

I had found a new connector - but now just need to figure out if I will also need a new collector and if they can be fitted with a new converter, or if I really need to find a "VP-system"-like substitute...

 

I hope this clears up my questions

 

Thank you again

[Olya]

The 65 takes Parker cartridges (luckily Parker never changed the format), I haven't tested whether current issue converters fit, but they should. The only problem with current issue converters would be if they are too long or otherwise don't fit into the barrel, which is unlikely.

 

Replacement connectors are available on eBay.

 

Also I'm not sure what exactly snapped off, maybe just the converter (the 65 is a cartridge/ converter pen) is the bit that's damaged, in which case that's no big deal.

 

Beyond that I can't offer any advice as I'm not very knowledgable on repair.

There are some threads on the 65 though, I am with Chrissy, google should give more info!

[IdaViemose]

Hi again,

 

The filler system is broken/snapped close to the collector.

 

See below images.

 

 

I can't seem to find threads on the mk/mrk/mark 1 Parker 65? Only for the mark 2 and 3 which seem to be different from the one I have...

[Olya]

To my amateur eyes it looks like the nipple of the converter snapped off and is in the connector. Maybe if that could be taken out, it would fix your problem.

Connectors are easy to find on eBay though, they have a reputation of malfunctioning over the years for this model.

[Chrissy]

As far as I'm aware the Parker 65 is a cartridge or converter pen. The VP has a very different specialist converter and that will not fit any Parker 65.

 

You can probably get a new connector on ebay and that should fix your pen. Parker 61 or 65 plastic connectors should fit it.

[artart]

http://www.custompenparts.co.uk/parker-pen-parts/130-parker-65-connectors.html#/tube-options-with-piercing-tube

[FarmBoy]

The first generation 65 used a filling unit based on the VP filler. The filling unit was fused to the connector. Like the VP they tended to snap off.

 

You can usually salvage the connector and modify a VP filler to work.

 

Your pen does not take cartridges or a standard Parker converter.

[mitto]

+1

The first generation 65 came with a VP style converter. Further, the early 65 production also came with a holy water sprinkler.

Edited August 14, 2018 by mitto

[parkergeo]

Here's a photo that can help you see what the Parker Clean Filler that your early P65 came with looks like when intact. At the top of the photo is an original 65 filler - the plastic is amber and ink-stained but it was originally transparent (and fragile). The middle filler is a VP filler in much better shape (but still fragile...) Note that the 65 filler neck has a round profile but the VP has a splined neck, a difference in function between the 65 with its fixed nib/feed and the VP which has a nib that is rotated to "personalize" the relationship between the nib and the triangular section grip.

 

At the bottom is a clever replacement VP filler made from a Parker 21 squeeze filler and a replacement neck/inner machined from more durable opaque black plastic. These are available from Main Street Pens for both the VP and the P65, and it is also possible to send in your broken filler to reuse the original metal sleeve components.

 

http://www.mainstreetpens.com/stuff.htm

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/195803-parker-vp-filler-units/

 

It appears that part of the neck is still stuck in the connector in your pen. It's been stated that in order to avoid breakage during removal and reinsertion, some of these were simply "glued" into place (FarmBoy said "fused" above), which could make it difficult to remove depending on what was used, but you could try soaking and careful use of heat.