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I'm not a Parker person so when I found this pen for 15$ I thought it was a good deal, but is it genuine?

Is it a Parker 51 vacumatic, or a nice copy?

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Looks like a real Parker.

 

In some circles it might be considered a fake Hero 616, but go with real Parker.

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That is a great price - even if you have to put $30 or so into it to have the diaphragm replaced.

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Looks like the real deal to me!

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Thanks for all the replies. The pen unfortunately was in worse condition than I thought. Apart from the sac needing replacement, the nib is also missing the iridium tipping....so I think I'm done with buying vintage/old pens. I'll stick to my modern ones since I also dislike wear signs on my pens, unless they're made by me. I only bought it because it's an iconic pen...well, at least I didn't lose too much. Cheers to you all!

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At $15.00 you got a good deal with the problems. I would look for a nib and then send it off to get repaired. I think you would be happy you did, but I don't have to have like new pens. If you don't want to just list it in the classifieds and mak a little.

 

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Math is always a fun subject

 

15 = purchase cost

35 = new nib with installation and adjustment

35 = complete cleaning and rebuild of filler

10 = some postage

 

95 = like new 51.

 

I would buy as many bad nib 51s for $15 that I could find.

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Math is always a fun subject

 

15 = purchase cost

35 = new nib with installation and adjustment

35 = complete cleaning and rebuild of filler

10 = some postage

 

95 = like new 51.

 

I would buy as many bad nib 51s for $15 that I could find.

In your case the cleaning / rebuild as well the postage would be EXCLUDED. So much cheaper. :)

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Looks like a real Parker.

 

In some circles it might be considered a fake Hero 616, but go with real Parker.

Never heard anyone claiming that Hero 616 IS NOT a P51 copy, so your stance is unjustified.

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Perhaps a fake Wing Sung? Wing Sungs almost look like a fake Parker, but they have an ink window and an improved filler.

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Math is always a fun subject

 

15 = purchase cost

35 = new nib with installation and adjustment

35 = complete cleaning and rebuild of filler

10 = some postage

 

95 = like new 51.

 

I would buy as many bad nib 51s for $15 that I could find.

 

Sending pens from Europe to US to be repaired is a hassle only worth going trough if the pen is valuable. In this case, it`s either fix it yourself or use it as spares. Personally i`m not brave enough to try and restore a vacumatic(i`d try if i already had the parts), this is why i only buy the aerometric version.

 

As a side note, i once bought a P51 with half of the tipping missing(thanks, ebay). I simply removed the remaining tipping and reground the tip using micromesh. Not the best solution out there, but totally acceptable, the nib was smooth again, albeit a bit rough by comparison with a tipped nib.

 

A vintage fp is only as good as the person who restores it, and for restored vintage pens, FPN is by far the best source one can hope for. Really.

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Never heard anyone claiming that Hero 616 IS NOT a P51 copy, so your stance is unjustified.

 

Looks like a real Parker.

 

In some circles it might be considered a fake Hero 616, but go with real Parker.

 

Farmboy is still chuckling. Mitto too...

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