Looking For A Dark, Dark Brown....

[markh]

 

What pen have you used it in? Doyou looks very dark in my Pelikan gushers and not dark at all (=very brown) in my Pilot Custom 743 (the same nib as 823). But even in Pelikans it definitely is not black.

 

 

 

Well, I would answer your question this way. I used a cotton swab and passed it over a piece of white paper many times, on the assumption that it gets lighter as the ink is used up. Black all the way down.

I also diluted some in water, which usually exposes the multiple colors in an ink. Black all the way.

 

So I'm not sure the pen would matter. Maybe I just got a "different bottle".

 

But thanks,

 

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[crahptacular]

Interesting... I certainly have pens/papers where Doyou is dark enough to look black, but I would definitely not describe it as "black all the way down". I did a quick comparison of Doyou vs Kiwa-Guro (which is my idea of "black all the way down") on the same page, including writing, smeared ink, swabbed ink, and diluted ink. Side-by-side with a true black, Doyou looks like a "brown-black" to me. This is on 28gsm copy paper, which was the whitest paper I had on hand.

 

 

As one of the people who suggested Doyou, I'm sorry if your experience is different from mine!

[Namo]

OK - based on many recommendations here, I bought a bottle of Sailor Jentle Doyou.

 

I would describe this ink as black. Not dark brown, not brown-black. Just black. Maybe a slightly warmed tone black, but no matter how much I dilute this ink in water nothing that resembles brown emerges.

 

The box is marked with a brown sticker and two Japanese characters, presumably Doyou (the characters match the image on web sites that sell the ink). I purchased a 50ml bottle if that makes the difference.

 

Did I get the right ink??

 

thnx,

 

 

Not black.

[lgsoltek]

Doyou is indeed very dark, and could be almost black in writing. Put it side by side with a black and you’ll see it’s not exactly black.

[rudyhou]

i own both Iro yama-guri and Sailor do-you. i do think do-you is a good choice if you looking for a dark(er) brown. but it also gives a slight more greyish tone to the brown than yama-guri.

[lapis]

Doyou +N

[martinbir]

A little late to the party, but how about Cult Pens (made by Diamine) Deep Dark Brown. I don't use it because it is so very dark - could be just the thing.

[markh]

So I think I have a slightly better handle on Sailor Doyou.

 

Striped (swabbed) on a page by itself, it has a dark gray/black look. I don't detect any brown.

 

I put a couple of other inks on the page. Quink black is a cold-toned black. The Sailor ink looks completely different.

 

I also put some swabs of Noodlers black on the page. IMO the two inks look almost identical on the page. The both have a neutral/warm tone. Both pretty much black. Maybe (just maybe) a slight brown tone in the Sailor, but only if I squint my eyes.

 

An interesting ink. I can't call the Sailor Doyou a brown ink - really a black ink with a brown second cousin, once removed.

 

I still have more "brown" inks to try - the search goes on.

 

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[aurore]

This is really weird... Would you mind adding some photos/scans, please?

[markh]

This is really weird... Would you mind adding some photos/scans, please?

I don't really have the equipment to do this in a way that would be informative.

sry....

 

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