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Help Identifying An Early Waterman

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#1 flows69

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 22:10

Good evening from France,

I just received this pen which was included in a lot of pen I bought online. It says Pat'd May 24 1898 on the cap and the Waterman #2 nib seems to have some reasonable flex. Any one able to help me identify the model?

 

When it comes to vintage pens I am mostly focused on Mabie Todds and am rather out of my depth here ;-)

 

Have a very good day guys, 

 

 

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#2 IlyaKovic

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 22:16

Waterman used 4 digits (XXXX) for their pen designations. Yours is a XX12. The first two digits indicate any kind of metal overlay work (e.g. 0512 would have a gold-filled overlay, 512 would be solid gold overlay). The third digit is the model. A 1X is an eyedropper. Eyedroppers were early models, and there was some lag in the designation when Waterman switched to lever fillers, so some leverfillers are also #1s. Eventually that was changed to XX5X. The last digit is the nib size. In your case #2. There may be some different designation because of the gold plated bands, I'm not sure how they designated early eyedropper trims. Other markings could include a "1/2," meaning the pen is thinner than usual, or a "v," meaning the pen is shorter than usual (for vest pocket). 

 

Check the butt of the pen. There should be stamping indicating the model number. It may be highly worn though.

 

I used "X" as a placeholder to show how the numbering system worked, that's just to explain it. There was actually a later pen called a "52X" that was a model 50 with a #2 nib but with a larger than normal body. 



#3 Force

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:40

There's one thing I know...it's a lovely pen.

 

My 1914 cataloge has this pen listed as a #12 to #16 Cone Cap.

 

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#4 Tom Heath

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 01:10

looks like you landed a nice flexi nib

 

enjoy


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