Come on. You're comparing very different levels of ink here. Nemosine is a company making products geared toward the inexpensive/beginner end of the FP market. Colorverse is shooting towards a higher end market. They're using more expensive materials and processes than Nemosine, which explains a good deal of the difference in prices. Even then, have you not run the equivalent prices of some inks?
With Colorverse you get 80 ml of ink for $36 MSRP. The old style Bungubox cost $43 for 50 ml; that would run you $68.80 for 80ml. Caran d'Ache is $41.50 for 50 ml ($66.40 for 80 ml). The new Sailor 20 ml Four Seasons inks run $15 ($60 for 80 ml). J Herbin 1798 inks have been running $32 for 50 ml ($51.20 for 80 ml). Nagasawa Kobe inks are $30 for 50 ml ($48 for 80 ml). Sailor inks like Sky High run $25 for 50 ml ($40 for 80 ml). Colorverse is definitely less expensive compared to all of those.
Let me preface this with saying that you're absolutely entitled to think 100% opposite to me and you're not wrong because all we're spouting is opinion. But I personally disagree.
Just because other companies are trying to rip you off doesn't justify it. Bungubox used to be way less expensive. It's just sailor ink. then it got popular. And the fancy bottle kinda helped justify it. Now it's almost a joke to many of us, the garbage sailor bottle holding regular sailor ink for three times what jentle used to cost. Caran d'ache is also a huge price but their bottle is much better and their ink is well behaved.
Sailor seems to just have an idea to see just how far they can push the market with their products. The jentle line went from my 100% go-to recommendation to near dead last in the past year because of their psychopathic pricing changes.
J. Herbin 1798 are shimmer inks (lower demand, more difficulty to mix and bottle, more components to the inks, these can contribute to cost increases. Even diamine shimmer inks cost a little more and nobody would accuse them of poor value) and you can routinely find them for $20-25. They definitely have the worst bottles in the industry though.
Sorry, but nothing you said exculpates colorverse and their poor quality ink in nice looking but impractical bottles in terrible packaging (forcing someone to cut the label to open the box is stupid design 101, as is not actually testing the efficacy of your bottle design before putting it into service.)
If you want to compare colorverse to a proper upmarket brand that is doing everything right, how about we look at Iroshizuku? Those are INCREDIBLY time tested and well regarded, high quality inks. They used to cost $30 a bottle. But they dropped the price to $20 with zero compromise in quality. Their bottles are elegant and nearly perfect in functionality, the packaging is wonderful and smart, and they do it all without forcing you to buy a box that takes up the same space as four of their boxes just to include a stupid mini bottle that is utterly useless or pile you with stickers and a cheap cardboard pen rest and bookmark.
Nemosine inks are wonderfully high quality, the bottles are smart and well made, the packaging is simple and clean. I've got the entire nemosine line and every single ink in it is perfectly mannered, with lovely colors and a few incredible standouts (blue snowball nebula is INSANE, with red sheen and monstrous silver shimmer, while still maintaining perfect manners)
I don't think you understand what "high end" even means in regards to ink. I'd argue pilot blue black would still be adored if you put it in a limited edition mont blanc bottle. Firstly, an ink must be well behaved. All four bottles I own of colorverse are bad in this regard. Quasar, string, brane, and dark energy. Second, it should probably be in a nice bottle. Colorverse is halfway there, they made it look nice but it functions terribly. Anything else is superfluous. Just chasing exclusivity by charging a lot is asinine. Mont Blanc barely gets a pass on their pens because they give those plastic pens an insanely huge nib, self filler, high fit and finish and superb customer support (high levels of customer service can also help, and maybe colorverse is great, but I can't say either way)
I inked a sample vial of gravity wave into a pilot custom 74 F and a lamy CP-1 14k OM, and both had smeary behavior and > 45second dry times on even my fairly absorbent kokuyo. Even 5 minutes later, it could still be smudged a bit. That's not a "premium ink" behavior. Sailor's yama dori is nearly identical in color, cost a third per mL, and doesn't have these problems.
Edited by Honeybadgers, 07 May 2019 - 07:23.