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What Is This Pen? Parker 21 Or 51 Special ?


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#1 PaulLeMay

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 00:16

How is this 21 different than a 51 Special?

 

I picked this up over the weekeend. Most Parker 21's I have seen use a plastic that is warped and different than a 51. This one seems the same as a 51, and the nib hole is the same as a 51, the ring on the hood that holds the cap is the same as a 51.

 

What is this pen?  The cap says it's a 21.

 

 

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 00:32

Looks like a 51 with a 21 cap. What does the converter say?


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 00:34

Super 21. Good-writing pens. Not as prone to cracking as earlier 21 models, but still not as sturdy as a 51.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 00:41

The filler just says Parker.



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 00:56

From what I can see of the nib shape, and how far it extends ahead of the hood, good chance it’s a super 21.
If you can remove the hood, the nib will tell the story. P-51’s have a tubular shaped nib. P-21’s don’t.

P-21’s are great writers. The Super is not the Lucite in the 51’s, but better plastic than the standard
P-21, and a lot more durable.
If it writes well, ink it up and enjoy it.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 00:58

If the pen were a 51, the filler would say "Parker 51."


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 00:59

From what I can see of the nib shape, and how far it extends ahead of the hood, good chance it’s a super 21.
If you can remove the hood, the nib will tell the story. P-51’s have a tubular shaped nib. P-21’s don’t.

P-21’s are great writers. The Super is not the Lucite in the 51’s, but better plastic than the standard
P-21, and a lot more durable.
If it writes well, ink it up and enjoy it.

P21 Supers have the same tubular Octanium nib as the P51 Special.


Edited by pajaro, 17 April 2018 - 00:59.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 01:02

P21 Supers have the same tubular Octanium nib as the P51 Special.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 01:46

Patker 21 Super as others have said. The filler on these pens would simply just say PARKER. On the 51 Special, the filler would say so. The octanium nibs are the same though. Another identifier is that the barrel length on the 21 Super is shorter than that of a 51 Special.
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Posted 17 April 2018 - 02:05

P21 Supers have the same tubular Octanium nib as the P51 Special.


Thanks pajaro, Mitto, and MrRene. You’re right, and I don’t know why I wrote it like that. I know better....(taking foot out of mouth)...lol

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 04:25

Thanks pajaro, Mitto, and MrRene. You’re right, and I don’t know why I wrote it like that. I know better....(taking foot out of mouth)...lol

 

Actually what you wrote was correct, as far as it went.  It just needed an elaboration for the 21 Super.  I have days when my mind goes blank on this stuff, and putting a pen back together must be postponed.  Old timer's.


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Posted 18 April 2018 - 18:57

Yes I hear that..lol

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 04:17

The P51 demi and the P21 Super are the same size, though.
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