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#1 AAAndrew

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 20:36

I've started to put together a Google Map with the various known sites related to Esterbrook's history. It's not complete, but I thought some might find it interesting as is. 

 

I've identified a second Camden site they used for manufacturing fountain pens. Not sure exactly what they did there vs. the main factory, but it was used from 1951 through 1964 when Esterbrook moved all of their production from Camden to Cherry Hill. There was a third site used for storage, and even a possible fourth site in North Camden (the source for that is from 2005, so not contemporary). 

 

I've also identified where the English works were located. It's now a student dorm, but was formerly the John Mitchell works. Esterbrook first used Mitchell to make his steel pens under contract for the European market, then Esterbrook purchased John Mitchell outright. It's probably a fair guess to think they made their early gold nibs for the Conway Stewart and other early English fountain pens there. In 1948 they started to make the Esterbrook J pens and others in the same building in which they had made the steel pens. 

 

I would love to find out where in Brazil, Columbia, Canada, and Mexico City they had factories. I haven't even begun that research. 

 

I've also found a few of their New York offices, at least the address, as well as their original Philadelphia address on Arch St.  It can give you an idea of how much they moved around, and how well bunched most of them are along John St. 

 

And I've thrown in a few of the homes lived in by Richard Sr. and Jr.. I've also include the homes of three guys I think may well be original pen makers for Esterbrook. At least one, John Turner, was British and came in 1860. I can't confirm they worked for Esterbrook, but they were pen makers in Camden, living just a couple of blocks from the Factory at a time when no other steel pen makers were in Camden. It's pretty likely. 

 

Anyway, I'll update the map as I gather more. If you have more to add or corrections, let me know, with sources and I'll add it. 

 

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 03:29

A lot of great info Andrew!

 

Thanks for looking into all of this!

 

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 03:26

You might want to include the two known Esterbrook black holes on your map.


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 12:42

You might want to include the two known Esterbrook black holes on your map.


Care to elaborate? Would those be like Bermuda triangles for Esterbrook pens?
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Posted 13 April 2018 - 03:45

44.288099,-88.4673033 is a known hole and 37.5985877,-122.4172856 is a suspect hole.


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Posted 13 April 2018 - 09:34

I think you were slightly off with the first one. It’s actually closer to (44.2622182,-88.4054536)

Still have to investigate the second.

I was right. These are like the Bermuda Triangle. Many Esterbrook’s go in, few ever come out.
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Posted 13 April 2018 - 20:32

I've started adding in more than Esterbrook onto the map. I've added addresses for Washington Medallion, Harrison & Bradford, and Turner & Harrison. Each grouping has its own layer so you can show or hide layers as you'd like. But it's interesting to see the clumping of offices in certain areas of NYC. 

 

I'll add more and go further back as well as I get the opportunity. It will turn into "The Steel Pen" map of history.  :)


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:03

I've also added the locations of Richard Sr. and Richard Jr.'s graves, at least the cemetery. If anyone knows where in the cemetery they're buried, I can move the marker. 

 

I've also added the ancestral home in Cornwall based on the info from the Jean Esterbrook thread above.


Edited by AAAndrew, 15 April 2018 - 01:06.

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 14:34

I think you were slightly off with the first one. It’s actually closer to (44.2622182,-88.4054536)

Still have to investigate the second.

I was right. These are like the Bermuda Triangle. Many Esterbrook’s go in, few ever come out.

Rumor has it two Js and a pencil got sucked in this week...


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 21:36

Thank you Andrew   I certainly appreciate you willingness to share   not to mention valuing all your hard work.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 23:15

I’m happy to share. I’m just glad someone else finds it interesting.
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