Jump to content

Pelikan M200 Brown Marble Size


Donato777

Recommended Posts

I just received my new Pelikan M200 in brown marble, and my first impression is that it's awfully small. In fact, I measured it against a much cheaper Sailor LeCoule and it's only one or two millimeters higher. I should have paid more attention to its size, and now I am not so sure I want to keep it. Before I ink it up and use it, or return it, have others had the same experience? Did the pen grow on you? It feels OK in my hand, but it's smaller than I prefer, e.g., my Pilot Custom Heritage 91 is a perfect size, and costs less with a 14K gold nib. Thank you for considering my post.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 18
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Donato777

    5

  • Bo Bo Olson

    4

  • dennis_f

    2

  • invisuu

    1

Its a great writer. You can write for hours with this pen without any fatigue. Im 6 4 (194 cm...I think I converted right...roughly) and M400 is my go to if I want to write for longer periods. M400 is same size as M200. It is also greatly balanced.

 

For scribbles at work or short burts, i.e. majority of my writing, I still prefer the M800 mostly due to feel in hand and the bigger diameter at grip section. But it is fatiguing after a long period of writing.

Edited by invisuu
Link to comment
Share on other sites

It like a standard sized pen like the 400, and very well balanced posted.

Unposted it is short, in it was designed to be posted.....in there is where it is balanced.

The vintage P-75 is also a standard sized pen....and has excellent balance posted.

 

Medium Large, the 600 or the old P-51.....again very well balanced posted.

 

In the old days.....'50-60-70's out side the MB 149....a huge pens.....Sheaffer made one of the first 'large' pens...the PFM...Pen For Men.....and I never saw one in real life and understand it didn't sell well..........................folks oddly insisted on light and nimble pens that had balance....for writing all day.

The very well balanced medium-large 146....'50-70, IMO the 146 became a lesser pen in balance when it was made into a Large pen in 1970. I have both....will reach for the better balanced 146 every time first........not counting it has a maxi-semi-flex nib to the '70-80's era regular flex.

 

Look at post 5 for a good way to hold a standard, or medium-long pen......unposted Large pens are too short :lticaptd: for the 'forefinger up' method of grasping a fountain pen...

And this is an automatic light grip........learned in three minutes.........not the three months of more of trying to take the 'Classic Tripod' grip from Death Grip to a light grip.

Pens With Largest Sweet Spots?

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you for all your replies. After trying the pen posted again, it feels fine in my hand. Plus all your encouragement persuaded me that it's a keeper. I got a fine nib, and will ink it up with some newly purchased Diamine Chocolate Brown on Rhodia ivory colored paper.

 

Do you recommend that I flush the pen once before using it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Donato, congratulations for joining the Pelikan club.

M200 is trully a great writer, with very good nib - flush it, dry overnight and enjoy!

Posted or unposted it has a good balance.

Let us know in few days your experience!

LETTER EXCHANGE PARTICIPANT

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am certain you will not regret keeping it Donato777. I have three M200's now, including the Brown Marbled. Earlier this week, I laid out the pens I had inked. (all 10) Most of them were in the size range of the M200. Probably six or seven. And they were the ones getting used most.

Brad

"Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind" - Rudyard Kipling
"None of us can have as many virtues as the fountain-pen, or half its cussedness; but we can try." - Mark Twain

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes always flush a new pen....or a just got used pen.

 

Balance can be new to folks...who didn't luck out growing up with standard sized Esterbrooks, or Sheaffer School pens or better. ..or the 200/400 pens, which I got into some decades after being a one pen man....a P-75....

When I had enough pens to fiddle with balance was something I recognized....even if I grew up in the day of One Man, One Pen.

 

 

PS we were so ignorant....clean a pen?????????????????? Why? :rolleyes:

Edited by Bo Bo Olson

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just inked up my new M200 fine nib with Diamine Chocolate Brown, and wow, what a smooth and pleasurable writing experience! The fine nib writes like a true fine on Mead Cambridge ivory paper. I love it. Thanks again for your encouragement.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Light and nimble, well balanced, easy to fill.

 

Get a rubber baby bulb syringe.....cut the spout so it fits over the end of the nib section after you have screwed it out. That helps clean that out gast....you can use the ..... well I have two bulbs, one still narrow to swish out the inside of the pen, the other to clean the nib......it a lot less time than cranking the piston in and out to get rid of all the ink.

 

The steel or gold plated 200's nib is a nice springy regular flex nib, just like the gold semi-vintage '82-97 ones....they are =.....I got enough of them, four 200/215 and four '90's pens.

 

Gold being better than steel is a myth.....and then there are the different era's...even then a good steel nib is as good as a good gold nib....accent on good..

I was a gold snob once :rolleyes: ....rather 'noobie' at the time....that lasted longer than it should have. :headsmack:

I passed up Osmia and Geha 790 steel nibs at a better price because of of the myth gold had to be better. :bunny01:

 

I am not a fan of the modern 400/600 fatter semi-nail nibs....yes they are butter smooth if that's all you want.....lots more baby bottoms too. :unsure:

They have a double kugal/ball and thicker tip, so ball point users don't have to learn to hold a fountain pen like a fountain pen......which has it's own problems.....of digging little grand canyons in the paper.....skipping....tine twisting and so on. Laying less ink because there is less tip touching the paper.

Do hold behind the big index knuckle.

Edited by Bo Bo Olson

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The M200 sized pens are meant to be posted, IMHO. Keeps it smaller in the pocket but allows it to take on a perfect size and balance once posted. There was a time when these were the standard sized pen, now small by today's standards and not a good choice of pen for someone who hates posting.

PELIKAN - Too many birds in the flock to count. My pen chest has proven to be a most fertile breeding ground.

fpn_1508261203__fpn_logo_300x150.jpg

THE PELIKAN'S PERCH - A growing reference site for all things Pelikan

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I preach posting of standard and medium-large pens. The P-51 of course has great balance posted or it would not have sold when all first tier pens had to have great balance or it would not be bought. They was an all day working pens.

 

I spent some two years dithering between which to me had better balance a 400 or a 400nn, before picking the medium-large 400nn as having the better balance....but I was nit picking to the max.

 

The 140's have a longer cap than the 400's, which makes it the same size posted as the 400.

 

I'd bought a pen I thought was a 400n, in it's real hard to tell if the piston cap is that tad different shaped. The 400n has a longer cap....which would have given it the same balance I think as a 400nn.

Torpedo shaped pens were so IN then, the 140, the Swan, Geha 790/760, some Osmias and the 146/9, so the nn was getting into the style.

And it allowed folks to know your 400nn was the newest of pens, where the 400n looked too much like the 'old' 400. Status counts.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The M200 sized pens are meant to be posted, IMHO. Keeps it smaller in the pocket but allows it to take on a perfect size and balance once posted. There was a time when these were the standard sized pen, now small by today's standards and not a good choice of pen for someone who hates posting.

 

What exactly is the size of the 200 posted? When I google the question, the answers vary.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

What exactly is the size of the 200 posted? When I google the question, the answers vary.

 

14.7cm, 5 3/4", same as an M400.

Peter

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just received my new Pelikan M200 in brown marble, and my first impression is that it's awfully small. In fact, I measured it against a much cheaper Sailor LeCoule and it's only one or two millimeters higher. I should have paid more attention to its size, and now I am not so sure I want to keep it. Before I ink it up and use it, or return it, have others had the same experience? Did the pen grow on you? It feels OK in my hand, but it's smaller than I prefer, e.g., my Pilot Custom Heritage 91 is a perfect size, and costs less with a 14K gold nib. Thank you for considering my post.

 

What nib did you get with the pen? I'm no trying to push you over the cliff, but I believe if you use it, the more you use it, the more you will like it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I love the M200 and have (too) many of them.

It's my go to pen, workhorse pen, travel pen.

It does feel slightly small, but never too small. I actually never post it and it feels fine.

it's perfect for note taking when going around, fits any pocket, writes without fail all the time.

The fact that it is an entry level pen but of high quality is its real unique value.

You will be hard finding another pen with the same characteristics, performance and reliability at a lower price, and to get improvements over its performance you have to pay twice or more.

Even the steel nibs are special, springy, I tend to prefer them even vs some modern gold nibs.

 

Don't give it away, you will have chances to get other pens, but once you got it (a nice colour version too), this is a keeper!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

What nib did you get with the pen? I'm no trying to push you over the cliff, but I believe if you use it, the more you use it, the more you will like it.

 

Mine is a fine nib, and it is very smooth. You are right. The more I use it, the more I am liking it. Thank you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I love the M200 and have (too) many of them.

It's my go to pen, workhorse pen, travel pen.

It does feel slightly small, but never too small. I actually never post it and it feels fine.

it's perfect for note taking when going around, fits any pocket, writes without fail all the time.

The fact that it is an entry level pen but of high quality is its real unique value.

You will be hard finding another pen with the same characteristics, performance and reliability at a lower price, and to get improvements over its performance you have to pay twice or more.

Even the steel nibs are special, springy, I tend to prefer them even vs some modern gold nibs.

 

Don't give it away, you will have chances to get other pens, but once you got it (a nice colour version too), this is a keeper!

 

I have a Pilot Custom Heritage 91 with a 14K gold rhodium plated Fine-Medium nib, and the M200 fine nib writes as smoothly as the Pilot. Also, I found myself writing with it unposted and did not notice that it was too small, although I prefer it posted. BTW, I got a bargain on my M200 on Amazon.com; I only paid $65.00 w/free shipping.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33494
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26627
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...