Where I Can Get The Tools To Remove The Nib. The Feed And The Cylinder

[Ron Z]

They quoted me more than USD500 for repair.

 

That can't be right. Maybe more than the $150 I would expect, but the underlying structure of the pen is just basic Montblanc. Where did you get the quote? Where is the repair center?

[Alphamale]

 

That can't be right. Maybe more than the $150 I would expect, but the underlying structure of the pen is just basic Montblanc. Where did you get the quote? Where is the repair center?

Yes Ron

 

That is the main reason I left it in a drawer for 10 years.

 

The mb boutique called "paris gallery" who is an official agent for mb in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

[Ron Z]

Wow.

 

OK. Here's a picture of what the section and collar should look like. This is on an older 146. Note the flange on the collar which is missing from yours.

 

Some sections are attached to the barrel, some are simply a bushing that interlocks with the barrel, and is held captive between the barrel and flange on the collar. The design changed over time. Your parts are similar, but it can be entertaining finding the right parts to fit this pen. Been there, done that, even with people who normally have MB parts.

 

http://www.mainstreetpens.com/pix/MB.jpg

 

Because the nib and feed are not keyed in the section, the notches can be in any position with relation to the nib and feed. A thread sealant is applied to the threads at the end of the collar, where the section meets the barrel, and towards the front end of the collar where it meets the section. Montblanc uses a silicone rubber compound with low sheer strength to form a gasket in place.

 

Dale Beebee at pentooling.com sells spanners that are made to remove the collar with the nib in it. They are $60 USD each.

 

Now, why can't you repair these pieces yourself.

 

MB plastic does not react with most solvents. The one that I had that did react, caused a section that I wanted to repair to instantly fall apart. I am not exaggerating. That leaves epoxy, which won't work well because there isn't much surface area to form a strong bond, or superglue. I trust superglue, even a hardened water resistant superglue, about as far as I can throw a grand piano. Even if I did, again, not a lot of surface area. Strength is rated in pounds per square inch. The problem is that with the thin plastic of a MB section (maybe 15 thousandths wall thickness?) there isn't much "square inch" there to have any strength. Even at 2000 PSI, if you have only 0.015 square inches, there isn't much.

 

The collar takes a lot of stress, both when tightened down against the section, and when the cap is screwed on and the inner cap presses against it. When I put a MB back together, I am VERY careful not to torque the assembly any more than is necessary to make it snug. I let the sealant applied do the work. If you had the pieces of the flange to glue on, you might get away with it. But you would need a good epoxy go glue them back on - the kind of stuff that costs $35/tube here in the USA.

 

I would look into the cost of shipping it to the MB repair center in Germany. You have nothing to lose by contacting them directly and asking. Or if you have family or friends in the USA, look into the cost of having them mail it to the service center in Texas. It's got to be cheaper than the boutique you talked to.

[Alphamale]

Ron

 

I will read tomorrow.

 

Many thanks

 

I really thankful

[Chrissy]

They quoted me more than USD500 for repair.

 

That can't possibly be right. That sounds like it would include a new nib. You don't need any silver parts replaced, so they must be quoting you the most expensive price in case you do. You only need flat rate service level 1 for regular black resin/plastic parts.

 

I agree with Ron. You should try to find a way of getting it repaired by Montblanc in Hamburg, by sending it to the US Head Office or Hamburg directly, and not going through "Paris Gallery."

 

I would go onto Montblanc.com and send them an email asking how you can get your pen repaired when you're in Saudi Arabia.

[Alphamale]

 

That can't possibly be right. That sounds like it would include a new nib. You don't need any silver parts replaced, so they must be quoting you the most expensive price in case you do. You only need flat rate service level 1 for regular black resin/plastic parts.

 

I agree with Ron. You should try to find a way of getting it repaired by Montblanc in Hamburg, by sending it to the US Head Office or Hamburg directly, and not going through "Paris Gallery."

 

I would go onto Montblanc.com and send them an email asking how you can get your pen repaired when you're in Saudi Arabia.

 

 

 

 

Very clear

 

many thanks Chrissy

Edited March 17, 2018 by Alphamale

[Alphamale]

Wow.

 

OK. Here's a picture of what the section and collar should look like. This is on an older 146. Note the flange on the collar which is missing from yours.

 

Some sections are attached to the barrel, some are simply a bushing that interlocks with the barrel, and is held captive between the barrel and flange on the collar. The design changed over time. Your parts are similar, but it can be entertaining finding the right parts to fit this pen. Been there, done that, even with people who normally have MB parts.

 

http://www.mainstreetpens.com/pix/MB.jpg

 

Because the nib and feed are not keyed in the section, the notches can be in any position with relation to the nib and feed. A thread sealant is applied to the threads at the end of the collar, where the section meets the barrel, and towards the front end of the collar where it meets the section. Montblanc uses a silicone rubber compound with low sheer strength to form a gasket in place.

 

Dale Beebee at pentooling.com sells spanners that are made to remove the collar with the nib in it. They are $60 USD each.

 

Now, why can't you repair these pieces yourself.

 

MB plastic does not react with most solvents. The one that I had that did react, caused a section that I wanted to repair to instantly fall apart. I am not exaggerating. That leaves epoxy, which won't work well because there isn't much surface area to form a strong bond, or superglue. I trust superglue, even a hardened water resistant superglue, about as far as I can throw a grand piano. Even if I did, again, not a lot of surface area. Strength is rated in pounds per square inch. The problem is that with the thin plastic of a MB section (maybe 15 thousandths wall thickness?) there isn't much "square inch" there to have any strength. Even at 2000 PSI, if you have only 0.015 square inches, there isn't much.

 

The collar takes a lot of stress, both when tightened down against the section, and when the cap is screwed on and the inner cap presses against it. When I put a MB back together, I am VERY careful not to torque the assembly any more than is necessary to make it snug. I let the sealant applied do the work. If you had the pieces of the flange to glue on, you might get away with it. But you would need a good epoxy go glue them back on - the kind of stuff that costs $35/tube here in the USA.

 

I would look into the cost of shipping it to the MB repair center in Germany. You have nothing to lose by contacting them directly and asking. Or if you have family or friends in the USA, look into the cost of having them mail it to the service center in Texas. It's got to be cheaper than the boutique you talked to.

 

 

I read the report and now it is clear to me the missing part and the technical difficulties in repairing this pen my self as well as the proper parts availability.

 

Many thanks Ron I can not express my appreciation and thanks enough.

 

 

I will take it In my next trip to Europe, or to Houston.

 

Best regards