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Hi all,

Below an exploded view I recently made showing the details of these ingenious filler.

Although most of these fillers are still functional, I'm sporadically confronted with defective fillers

Given this fillers become gradually more difficult to find I've started repairing them.

In a later stage I'll post on the most encountered defects and how these can be repaired

Regards,

Francis

 

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/fountainbel/Repair%20suggestions%20to%20forum/ffade37f-a611-4646-9763-65cfa4789ea4.jpg

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Hi Francis,

 

Thank you for sharing this! This is an excellent offer to the forum and all of us who love this pens.

 

Thank you so much for this!

 

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Vasco

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Wow, this is great!

 

Thanks for showing this.

 

Love your enthusiasm and technically wisdom as well as your drawing skills :-)

 

Cheers

 

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Below an exploded view I recently made showing the details of these ingenious filler.

Although most of these fillers are still functional, I'm sporadically confronted with defective fillers

Given this fillers become gradually more difficult to find I've started repairing them.

 

~ fountainbel:

 

While I'm not a technical person with regard to fountain pens, I do recognize and admire quality schematics.

My students could learn from your superb labelling, which is both easy to read and comprehensive.

Thank you for taking time to prepare such a meticulous rendering. It's very kind of you to share it here.

Now I see who I ought to have consulted for labelling the parts in an image posted in “Enjoying Montblanc Pens...”.

Hats off to you for your skills and generosity.

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Thank you for the fantastic drawing!

 

It's pretty clear why MB stopped using the telescopic filler (perhaps after the market requirements subsided, or maybe after marketing the high capacity was no longer needed), because of the level of complication.

 

Fewer parts mean lower manufacturing costs, easier servicing, and possibly higher reliability.

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Francis,

 

Thank you for sharing this informative drawing!

 

Since you have done many of these repairs already, what is the most common failure that you see on these mechanism? Or do they fault here and there?

 

Bob

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Thank you all for your kind comments !

Being nearly 73, and being a fan of these magnificent fillers I gladly shear my experiences with the next generations of pen addicts !

Francis

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Francis is a great asset to the FPN Community and very generous with his knowledge.

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Francis is a great asset to the FPN Community and very generous with his knowledge.

 

An asset that clearly loves Montblanc fountain pens. We tip our hats off to you Francis.

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Nice :-)

 

I have a couple of 136 telescopes that don't completely retract when they are in the pen as the clutch slips to early. It would be nice to figure out if these can be repaired...

 

Look forward to your further posts.

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Thanks for posting! I have a 136G that I need to send out for repairs at some point, new cork seal for starters and the telescoping piston needs some loving too...

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Nice :-)

 

I have a couple of 136 telescopes that don't completely retract when they are in the pen as the clutch slips to early. It would be nice to figure out if these can be repaired...

 

Look forward to your further posts.

 

Hi Stylomeister,

The radial pretension of the cork in the barrel may be to high.

I always aim making the cork 0.15 to 0.2 mm larger in diameter as the barrel bore.

The friction factor is aiso important.

I soak the cork "au bain Marie" in a mixture of 50% beeswax and liquid paraffin to reduce the friction.

Doing so also the cavities in the cork will get filled and friction reduced

Soaking in in paraffin will equally work.

Check also if the sleeve "6 slides easily over the nut sleeve "7" and in the housing "13" or "16"

In the worst case the female threads of the large lead screw are excessively worn,and the lead screw gets blocked under axial movement restriction.

Francis

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Thank you for posting this! I've been curious about seeing the inner mechanics of these telescopic pistons.

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Dear Francis,

 

What kind of tool does it require to remove the filling knob of the 14x series of pens?

 

Cheers

 

Michael

 

Hi Michael,

One needs a special tool which engages in the two axial slots the slip clutch housing 17.

I've made me a sturdy tool, but be aware that removal of the filling knob can be a pain in the neck!

Montblanc initially used their sealing kit which became stone hard after all these years.

Sometimes one need to heat up the filling knob to to maximum to get the slip clutch housing out.

Below a picture of the tool I've made.

The tool Is made large in diameter so one can clamp it in the work bench vise. Doing so one has the 2 hands free to hold the barrel and screw the knob off.

Francis

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/fountainbel/Fountain%20pen%20Repair%20tools/P1010244.jpg

 

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/fountainbel/Fountain%20pen%20Repair%20tools/P1010243.jpg

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