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#21 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 22:21

What is the maximum width you are pushing your 1000's semi-flex nib too?

 

Maximum flex of a semi-flex should be 3 X a light down stroke....from my experience....27 semis & 16 maxi's from the era.

I don't stress a nib if I can help it. I was very impressed by Richard Binder's article on metal fatigue....what I call how to spring your nib.

 

When I was 'noobie' and more ham fisted I often was at 3 X. on my first semi-flex for the three months it took me to lighten my Hand a bit.............now it's seldom I do that, occasionally if I want a fancy decender, but that is seldom....like the end of a paragraph, where fancy might look real well.


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#22 Markall

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 22:31

I would say 3x. I mostly write a light hand. Gold is known for its durability, specially in bending. The way they have treated it, hammering and heating etc. Determines the hardness.

#23 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 10:42

14 K is so known......there are vintage 18 K that are good, but from what I read here, the modern 18K is not so durable...it will bend and stay bent when stressed or over stressed, where a 14K semi-flex nib will not.

That is why I was so interested in how wide the nib had been pushed.

 

Some folks come from nails and press  a regular flex....and think because the tines both bend and spread :unsure: , think regular flex is semi-flex...they have heard of.

 

The 3 X tine set max, are regular flex, which when well mashed will go to 3 X....not that someone would really want to write like that....way too much work. But is a springy nib, a nice ride.

 

Semi-flex takes half of that pressure.....In I was still ham fisted, I spent some three months getting a lighter hand and not maxing the nib all the time. A Pelikan 140 OB.

 

Which was good, in the next 'semi-flex' I got wasn't, it was a maxi 400NN OF; but my Hand was much lighter, so I didn't discover it was maxi...until later when I invented the term, due to my most flexible Maxi nib, a Rupp nib.

 

Maxi-semi-flex, half of semi-flex or 1/4th the pressure needed to mash a regular flex to 3 X.

 

Well one has to have a regular flex to tell if the new pen is semi-flex....has to have semi-flex to tell if a new pen is maxi-semi-flex.....because I think trying to go from regular flex to Maxi would be misleading. In one would think the maxi is semi-flex and the normal semi-flex not springy enough....or a good enough semi-flex.

Grumbling about second class semi-flex nibs. :gaah:


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 14 March 2018 - 10:57.

Everyone says poor Mozart dead at only 36. None say poor Mendelson, dead at only 38. His family only allowed him to start at 20, but before, musicians use to come to the Mendelson garden to steal the music of Mendelson and his sister. A good artist also, can still buy prints of his famous Scottish drawings in Scotland.

 

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany      Info on Bock nibs

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 11:08

Pelikan M1000.jpg wide narrow flex.jpg Thank you for the article on Bock nibs. I seldom use the flex. I have a 1950 M400 wich can flex a lot, but the pen is fragile, pre-owned by my father and I write with it for 45 years. I've also a couple of old Swans, but flex also means a lot of ink with these. The flex in the M1000 adds merely to the character of the writing and the ease of use. It's one of my preferred pens.

I made some pictures of the flexing nib and the result. I've exaggerated in an earlier post how much it bends, I notice now.



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 11:19

No.  That is a defective nib unit. 

 

The feed must be tight against the nib to have proper transfer of ink to the nib.  I assume that you find it writing fine after just filling the pen.  But with the gap between nib and feed it really won't work properly, especially after being carried nib up.  Weird, inconsistent flow problems clear up when a feed with a gap like that is reset against the nib.

 

Actually, Ron, that's normal for a Pelikan M1000 nib. Only a region at the end of the feed is in contact with the nib in "rest" position.

 

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Posted 14 March 2018 - 19:05

 

Actually, Ron, that's normal for a Pelikan M1000 nib. Only a region at the end of the feed is in contact with the nib in "rest" position.

 

HTH,

 

Martin

 

 

Thanks Martin! I never head of something like that but my biggest Pelikan is a M805...



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 22:51

For me semi-flex only adds that old fashioned fountain pen flair.....thicker first letter, perhaps some thicker half letters........but having pens with more flexibility, don't strive to over stress it looking for superflex performance. 


Everyone says poor Mozart dead at only 36. None say poor Mendelson, dead at only 38. His family only allowed him to start at 20, but before, musicians use to come to the Mendelson garden to steal the music of Mendelson and his sister. A good artist also, can still buy prints of his famous Scottish drawings in Scotland.

 

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany      Info on Bock nibs

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

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