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Cheap Chinese Nib In My Pilot Metropolitan

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#1 pitonyak

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 03:30

Two days after I purchased it, I dropped my Pilot Metropolitan NIB straight down onto a hard floor. 

 

Rather than keep the pens as parts, I chose to try a cheap Chinese nib. The NIB is listed as EF and 0.38mm. I believe that the Pilot F nib is 0.32mm, so, this is pretty close, but larger than, the Pilot Fine nib. 

 

The nib is gold in color and it reads EF/CLASS/YONGSHEMG I think. 

 

I am attaching sample writing using the Chinese EF nib with a pen loaded with a Pilot Blue Cartridge. The black writing is using a Pilot F nib. 

 

I purchased three nibs for about $5 on eBay from assassin813. I was then asked which nib I wanted, F or EF. At the time I did not know that the EF was closer to the Pilot F, so I am glad that I chose the EF over the F (.5 mm). 

 

It seems to be writing well right now, but the Pilot nib is smoother I think. The Pilot nib was awesome the moment I inked it up, I had to write a bit before the Chinese nib started writing better. 

 

AT the end of the day, I am pleasantly surprised at how well this cheap nib performs, but, only time will tell how well it continue to performs. 

 

Close up of the NIB:

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Nib on the pen:

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Text written with the Chinese EF nib:

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Comparison with the Pilot Fine Nib (Black) and the Chinese EF nib (blue). :

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#2 prashant.tikekar

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 04:07

It is a nice find. You can also swap a Pilot nib from Plumix with  Metro.



#3 pitonyak

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 22:19

And they are under $10..... A nice way to get a nib. I did not realize that they are so inexpensive. 

 

I may do it since the Chinese nib is a bit more temperamental. For exmple, if it sits in my pocket nib up for a few hours, it is a slow start. Also, if I quickly right the word "start" in cursive, when I go to cross the t characters, the cross bar is shorter than I expect if I do not press harder. 



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Posted 09 March 2018 - 00:51

Thanks very much for the information.


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#5 pitonyak

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 04:35

This nib dried up and would not start again. I put a little water on the nib and the feeder portion looked pretty wet. So, I pushed it back in, but not as hard, and then it seemed to write again. 

 

Will see if it works in the morning. 

 

I did order a Plumix, and, if this does not clear up before it arrives, I will drop the new Pilot branded nib in place and see if that still has problems. It is plausible that I damaged something internal, or I could have had it pushed in to far, or, these cheaper nibs may simply not work consistently. 

 

More to come.



#6 pitonyak

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Posted 10 March 2018 - 04:10

OK, for the last day, this thing has worked great all day long. I did pull the nib last night and then I did not push it in as far. Not sure if it is related, or if it is because I left the pen either on its side or nib down in my pocket. 



#7 pitonyak

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 13:44

I left the pen sitting nib down for a couple of days and it did start writing. Then, I held the pen uncapped for maybe a 40 to 80 seconds, and it would no longer write again. I could have pursued it, but, I pulled a Medium nib from a Medium Plumix; thanks for the remind Prashant.tikekar.

 

As expected, that just works. When the cheap Chinese eBay EF nib worked, it worked rather well, and if I new better how to tune the nib (maybe just spread the tines a bit), it would start being more reliable, but, without the obvious no how on my part, I am not sure that it is worth the time. The Pilot Fine and Medium nibs and the Lamy nibs all seem to be very reliable... 



#8 pitonyak

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 04:32

I found that this was also not reliable with the Pilot nib.... I struggled with this for a while, then, since I have been reading lots of other posts on the forum, it occurred to me that I had a cartridge that sat in the pen open for literally a month before I installed the nib and gave it a go, so, I am revisiting with the nib in the pen using fresh ink; this time I am using Noodler's EEL blue (Turquoise) ink fresh out of the bottle that has not been sitting open for a month. 



#9 flyingpenman

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 14:53

Thanks for the report! Are you still using the Plumix M?
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#10 pitonyak

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 15:01

The Plumix pens came in a pack of three. I took a foreign student in for a few days and he liked how it wrote, so I inked one up for him, gave him some cartridges, and he loves it. I found the pen to feel a bit flimsy in my hand, so I chose to use it strictly as a donor nib. 

 

When I had lots of trouble with the donor nib in the Pilot Metropolitan, I was confused. I just could not keep it running either. So, I cleaned the pen, put it down, and then thought about it. 

 

When I saw that other people had trouble when they left their pen uncapped, I started to think..... I had left the ink cartridge completely exposed for roughly one month. Even with the M nib, I just could not keep ink feeding. 

 

I probably could have thinned the ink if I had known that might help, but, after sitting all night with some new Noodler's American EEL Blue (Turquoise) it is still writing like a champ. It just made no sense to me that two different nibs had a problem unless I had physically damaged something internal to the pen; and I do not think that there is that much to damage apart from the nib and the plastic thing that the nib sits on. 

 

So, I think that I was wrong in my initial assessment of the cheap Chinese XF nib. But I will let it play out a bit to see for certain. 



#11 pitonyak

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Posted 27 March 2018 - 15:07

The nib really writes well when it writes, but, it is dry. I was using Noodler's American EEL Turquoise, which I expect to be wet, so, I will come back to this nib later. I will floss it then see if it has better ink flow. But I have a couple of really nice pens that I want to ink up and try and I am trying to not just ink up a whole bunch of pens. I have five inked right now. 



#12 pitonyak

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 19:25

re-inked the pen after a complete cleaning and I have been using the Chinese EF nib with no issues, so, if you just need a nib and can't easily get one, drop it in and go. 



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 07:53

Caliarts, Lorelei, Wingsung 659/698 have nib which can be used on Pilot Metropolitan, Plumix.





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