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#1 FlameOfWrath

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 00:06

Hi,

 

I've got a MB 149 that had a bad nib (it needed to be retipped) but everything else was in good condition.  I bought a new nib and installed it but after filling it I find that it is very dry.  It really only writes well "inverted".  I think there is too much space between the nib and the feed.  Does this sound right?  Do I need to form the nib somehow so that it is closer to the feed and the capillary action will function between the nib and feed?

 

I don't want to send it to MB as they will replace the split ebonite feed with a modern feed.

 

Here's a profile photo of what I'm seeing.

 

https://imgur.com/a/04JsD

 

 

Thanks for the suggestions.

 



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 00:21

That gap should not be there. I would make sure the nib and feed are seated properly. Then you could try heat setting the feed to the nib once you are sure it is jot something with positioning.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 00:31

I agree with zaddick.

 

I'd try the re-positioning first. Assuming you fitted it yourself, I'd pull it out again, see if you can re-seat the nib onto the feed without the gap (in your photo) and put it back in. Sometimes a bit of fiddling around can match them perfectly.

 

If that doesn't work (possibly because it's a new nib on an old feed), then heat setting may do the trick. There are posts on this forum (and the internet in general) on how to do this.

 

Good luck



#4 FlameOfWrath

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:29

Ok. I will check that next. Sounds like the fix.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:30

I successfully used this method to solve the same problem on a Sheaffer'S Snorkel 



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:48

The new nib may not have the same profile to fit onto that feed as the old one had, so it takes a bit of skill to set it properly onto the feed.

 

If you don't want to send it to Montblanc to be fixed, then you will need to reseat it onto the feed so that the gap that you can currently see between them isn't there. Heat setting might not necessarily be required.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 15:58

MB will "fix" it by removing the feed and replacint it with plastic and maybe a new pen barrel to boot if the new feed does not fit well.

 

One of the only real benefits of ebonite is the ability to heat set the feed to the nib. A professional could do it if the owner has concerns.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 16:47

Hi,

 

I've got a MB 149 that had a bad nib (it needed to be retipped) but everything else was in good condition.  I bought a new nib and installed it but after filling it I find that it is very dry.  It really only writes well "inverted".  I think there is too much space between the nib and the feed.  Does this sound right?  Do I need to form the nib somehow so that it is closer to the feed and the capillary action will function between the nib and feed?

 

I don't want to send it to MB as they will replace the split ebonite feed with a modern feed.

 

Here's a profile photo of what I'm seeing.

 

https://imgur.com/a/04JsD

 

 

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

 

Nib needs to be reset an easy fix......If you can't do....Try contacting the folks at the Colorado Pen Club {google} or

wait for the Colorado pen Show....there will be folks there who can help you.......http://www.coloradopenshow.com/

 

Fred



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 16:48

MB will "fix" it by removing the feed and replacint it with plastic and maybe a new pen barrel to boot if the new feed does not fit well.

 

One of the only real benefits of ebonite is the ability to heat set the feed to the nib. A professional could do it if the owner has concerns.

 

Yes they probably will. Some of us prefer to send an old pen off and get a brand new one back though.  :wub:



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 17:30

Nothing wrong with that. Some of us even prefer to send a completely broken pen with no salvageable parts off for a new pen in return. ;)



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 18:10

Thanks for the suggestions.  I removed the nib unit (again) and knocked out the nib and feed then cleaned everything up and test fit the nib over the feed. It seemed to still have some space between the nib and feed when I just held it in place with my fingers so I took just the nib and put a tiny amount of pressure on the top of the nib and then checked it with the feed until it was sitting closer to the nib when I held it on with my fingers. I also positioned the feed closer to the tip of the nib and slid the whole thing back into the collar.

 

I had to re-align the tines after all of this but it is writing well now without being dry or skipping.  I think it is fixed.

 

Thanks for the reassurances.

 

https://imgur.com/a/H9Mni

 

@marlinspike:  I tried that technique yesterday but wasn't able to get the nib to bend at all and I didn't want to put pressure on the feed.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 18:30

Thanks for the suggestions.  I removed the nib unit (again) and knocked out the nib and feed then cleaned everything up and test fit the nib over the feed. It seemed to still have some space between the nib and feed when I just held it in place with my fingers so I took just the nib and put a tiny amount of pressure on the top of the nib and then checked it with the feed until it was sitting closer to the nib when I held it on with my fingers. I also positioned the feed closer to the tip of the nib and slid the whole thing back into the collar.

 

I had to re-align the tines after all of this but it is writing well now without being dry or skipping.  I think it is fixed.

 

Thanks for the reassurances.

 

https://imgur.com/a/H9Mni

 

@marlinspike:  I tried that technique yesterday but wasn't able to get the nib to bend at all and I didn't want to put pressure on the feed.

 

 What Marlinspike posted {not the first time re any nib problem}...Has absolutely nothin' to do with your needing to reset the nib.

 

Marlinspike posted this video here http://www.fountainp...pair/?p=4011837

 

And had Nothin' to do with resetting nib and feed....

 

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 18:38

 

Yes, that looks a lot better.  Well done.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 18:41

 

 What Marlinspike posted {not the first time re any nib problem}...Has absolutely nothin' to do with your needing to reset the nib.

 

Marlinspike posted this video here http://www.fountainp...pair/?p=4011837

 

And had Nothin' to do with resetting nib and feed....

 

 Fred

 

 

Right.  I just meant that I tried that manipulation before I reset the nib.  Resetting the nib fixed the problem.  The solution in the video did not.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 19:10

 

 

Right.  I just meant that I tried that manipulation before I reset the nib.  Resetting the nib fixed the problem.  The solution in the video did not.

 

 You did a great job...looks good.

 

Re said video....my point is simply this...the video has Nothing To Do With Resetting A Nib..and this person keeps posting it....

 

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 04:52

I did not realize his problem was that it was installed improperly, I thought it might simply be bent out of whack.



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:38

Thanks for the suggestions.  I removed the nib unit (again) and knocked out the nib and feed then cleaned everything up and test fit the nib over the feed. It seemed to still have some space between the nib and feed when I just held it in place with my fingers so I took just the nib and put a tiny amount of pressure on the top of the nib and then checked it with the feed until it was sitting closer to the nib when I held it on with my fingers. I also positioned the feed closer to the tip of the nib and slid the whole thing back into the collar.

 

I had to re-align the tines after all of this but it is writing well now without being dry or skipping.  I think it is fixed.

 

Thanks for the reassurances.

 

https://imgur.com/a/H9Mni

 

@marlinspike:  I tried that technique yesterday but wasn't able to get the nib to bend at all and I didn't want to put pressure on the feed.

 

Good job.  :)  I just looked at the "after" picture and it looks much better now.  :)








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