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#1 docdroe

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 20:51

Hello!

 

I have owned a Montblanc Heritage 1912 with its wonderful B nib for a little bit under a year now and a few days ago I took a closer look inside the cap and noticed something that resembles rust/corrosion inside at the end of the cap (where the metal rod sits). I hope it is visible in the attached photo.

I have searched the internet for people experiencing similar problems but so far no results. Hence my question to all the owners of a Montblanc Heritage 1912 fountain pen around here: could you perhaps check the inside of your caps for any signs of rust/corrosion? It might be that I am the only person experiencing this (which would surprise me since I have not been using any inks that could cause this and in general used the pen only very sparingly) but it might also be a problem with this particular material inside the cap. I am a bit concerned that a pen of this price would exhibit such a fault.

 

I am really curious about that and would really appreciate your help!

 

Thank you!

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 21:28

You might find this comes clean if you use a cotton bud to clean inside and around the metal rod part. Don't soak your cap in water though.

 

What inks do you use with your pen? An iron gall ink in contact with that steel part could potentially cause the problem.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 21:39

Thank you, Chrissy! 

I've actually tried cleaning it with a cotton bud already but unfortunately to no avail... 

And so far I've only used MB inks (namely Irish Green and Lavender Purple) with this pen, which is one of the reasons I'm so surprised by this staining/rust.



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 21:47

Thank you, Chrissy! 

I've actually tried cleaning it with a cotton bud already but unfortunately to no avail... 

And so far I've only used MB inks (namely Irish Green and Lavender Purple) with this pen, which is one of the reasons I'm so surprised by this staining/rust.

 

Is it definitely steel and not brass?



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 21:57

 

Is it definitely steel and not brass?

 

Hmm I think that the body of the pen is lacquered brass so it could be that the plate under the metal rod is indeed also brass... Haven't considered this so far, thank you!



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Posted 28 February 2018 - 22:31

I am following this conversation with interest. My Heritage 1912 will return to me in two weeks. And then I will take a close look inside.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 22:48

That would be wonderful, thank you! Im really curious what the caps of other users look like.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 23:05

If you expand your photo the 'rust' is green and purple in colour.

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 23:30

That would be wonderful, thank you! Im really curious what the caps of other users look like.


Absolutely. My heritage 1912 has seen daily use ever since I acquired it a few years ago. Mostly MB midnight blue ink.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 03:40

If you expand your photo the 'rust' is green and purple in colour.

I am afraid the only things I see the rust become when expanding my image is artifcats and noise :).
I would be happy if the solution were just a silly overreaction on my part but Ive made quite sure that nothing that is in that cap at the moment is residual ink and/or can be cleaned away.

If we were to assume that the material was brass, as Chrissy suggested, then possible corrosion could indeed be green/purple-coloured; but in any case would still remain corrosion.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:37

I'm sure it's absolutely nothing to worry about.  :)



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 10:38

This is what I got when I zoomed,cropped and enhanced the colour of the image. Definitely some green and purple in there, and maybe other stuff.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 11:28

@Chrissy: Thanks! I'm probably more curious than worried at this point :).

 

Very interesting, I understand what you mean now. 

I tried the same with the original image and played with the colours a bit.

It might be my eyes but I think the effect is perhaps a bit less pronounced in these crops (the first one being the original):

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 11:41

Hmmm, it does look more corroded than it looked in your original picture. I would ask Montblanc about it.



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 11:54

Yes, that is actually what I did first thing when becoming aware of it. Understandably, MB asked to send them pen so that they could have a closer look at the problem (and which is what I am going to do once I am back in Germany). 

I thought it just might be interesting to investigate with the help of the community whether this is just an isolated case or potentially a more widespread issue (to the latter of which MB would most likely not admit).

In any case, thanks very much for your help! :)



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 12:07

Please keep us posted! As a 1912 user and loved, I will keep. Close eye on this.

Ps, I do plan on always having mine inked up.

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 12:10

Please keep us posted! As a 1912 user and loved, I will keep. Close eye on this.

Ps, I do plan on always having mine inked up.

 

I will!

I understand then that your cap doesn't exhibit this?



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 16:34

I'll let the picture say it.

 

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 19:21

Thank you so much!

I guess this might confirm the brass theory?

It might be the perspective but it almost seems as if your cap was built a bit differently...



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Posted 01 March 2018 - 20:58

Thank you so much!

I guess this might confirm the brass theory?

It might be the perspective but it almost seems as if your cap was built a bit differently...

I hadnt noticed the build difference until you pointed it out. But it would seem so! I can see the hexagonal part much more clearly, in your images i just cant see them








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