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Vanishing Point Modification Suggestions

vp vanishing point metropolitan capless wet dry crisp

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#21 minddance



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Posted 10 February 2018 - 09:19

Please be a little more sensitive to the way you phrase your words. The Japanese make amazing pens... for their own market!
If you ever written kanji or mandarin with their fine nibs on daily documents, you'd find their nibs amazingly tuned. If they are wet, the details in the words get lost.
Western letters, especially English is not as focused on detail as much as the way we group the 26 letters, which is the reason why I find Pilot's medium and broad nibs perfect. They run broader and wetter than their Sailor and Platinum cousins.

Dear Gerigo,

My words do not imply that Japanese pens are sub-standard or inferior or less amazing than you view them. I am just saying that the Japanese cannot put together a pen that is both fine AND wet - it is as simple as that.

FYI, I am Chinese myself but not of Chinese nationality and certainly write Chinese characters on a daily basis.

My point is simple: Blacks must be black and ink must flow, that is a technical basic for pens to lay ink onto paper.

By restricting and controlling flow is certainly one of the many ways to get a fine line but I feel the Japanese have worked too hard to control ink flow. It may work beautifully on rice paper or tissue-like papers, absorbent. But on my everyday grainy copier papers, they make very jagged and faint lines, and I have a very light hand. I cannot fault their pen-making expertise but I can dislike it, and to make things work better for me, I can only use very dark inks, preferably Black, but still it does not work for me, I add Kodak Photoflo to make the combination viable.

Btw, for fine lines and line variations in Chinese characters, the writer can use different angles of the nib, or a edged surface or a tooth in the nib. But ink must flow.

If I had to be sensitive to words, I see you wrote "The Japanese make amazing pens..... for their own market". This, if I may, is rather tongue in cheek with your admiration for Japanese pens, I see you mean that Japanese pen makers exclude all other markets in their very fine - very fine indeed - pen craftsmanship.

Edited by minddance, 10 February 2018 - 09:37.

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#22 drgt



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Posted 10 February 2018 - 17:55

Well put.

However, after all posts made, I am still not clear what my choices are.

Remember, I want to make both VP's write like the Metro.

Or maybe leave them be and try a <FM> nib?
Anyone has experience with that?

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