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Do All Carene's Leak?


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#1 Shannon

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 19:37

I adore these pens, but I swear they all dump ink.  I've never used one that didn't leak all over me....   :angry:


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 19:48

Mine didn't. Maybe I got lucky.  I found them to be quite a well made pen for the most part.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 20:15

I'm a sucker for punishment.  I keep buying them and using them.  I really need to start wearing dark clothes when I do, though....


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 20:42

I've had one now for a few weeks, and no leaks. I'm still on the included cartridge, though. I haven't used it up and moved to the converter.



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Posted 24 January 2018 - 21:03

I don't recall memorable problems when I had a few 20 or so years ago, should be a decent solution to this for you. Where is the leak coming from?



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Posted 24 January 2018 - 21:10

I don't recall memorable problems when I had a few 20 or so years ago, should be a decent solution to this for you. Where is the leak coming from?

 

 

I can't tell.  When I uncap it, the cap is full of ink.  I'm using a converter -- never tried a cartridge, maybe that's the answer.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 21:11

I've a couple of Carenes; had them for ten or twelve years and have not had any leaking problems.  Are you using cartridges or the converter or both?  Never mind, just saw your earlier response.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 21:13

It sounds like your converter may not be seated properly.  Do you fill the pen with the converter in place or remove the converter to fill?


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 21:22

Carenes will seep ink around the nib 'horns' if your finger touches there. But the cap should not be filled with ink. Try a cartridge and see if that fixes your problem.

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 21:26

I have owned and used several Carene's over the years, using both converter and cartridges, and have never had any leak,,,

 

They are a very well designed and engineered Fountain Pen...the OP has been very unlucky.



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Posted 24 January 2018 - 22:33

No problems so far...

 

 

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 22:51

Still usin' the first year Carene purchased in 1997 {?}...No problemo..whatsoever...

 

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 23:09

I've never had any signs of a leak with my current Carene.   :)  I don't think they've ever been out of the house, rattling around in a bag though.  -_-

I had a previous Carene where the converter plastic end split and started leaking. I bought an older version with a metal screw end and that fixed it.

 

I would check the converter first, and maybe replace it.  :)



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Posted 25 January 2018 - 04:38

How many have you used or owned.

Can you upload a picture of them and their converters.

Once or twice per year this topic pops up and in most cases the fault is with the converter. Either an early one with split lip, faulty piston seal or one of the current hard plastic versions.

 

There is a caveat regarding converters within a Waterman pen repair RMA I have just received.

 

Please note, that in the case of a leaking refill, the original refill/converter must be returned within the pen. 

If the original refill/converter is not provided a quotation will be issued for the repair.

 

I think this was added when many were experiencing issues with the current all plastic mouth version. Post #2, No 15.



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Posted 25 January 2018 - 16:32

Just have one but have never had a leaking problem with it.


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Posted 25 January 2018 - 21:54

No leaks in three Carenes.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 14:55

The Carens are known for leaking around the nib.  The nib slides onto the shell and is held in place on the horns by an adhesive.  This breaks down eventually, and as has been noted, you get leaks around the horns.  It is a pain to seal, and I've quit doing them.


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 15:37

The Carens are known for leaking around the nib.  The nib slides onto the shell and is held in place on the horns by an adhesive.  This breaks down eventually, and as has been noted, you get leaks around the horns.  It is a pain to seal, and I've quit doing them.

But they do not leak from that area as much as the op has implied. Yes touch the nib, like any form of nib, and you might get inked.



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Posted 26 January 2018 - 15:44

But they do not leak from that area as much as the op has implied. Yes touch the nib, like any form of nib, and you might get inked.


Exactly. I'd get ink on one finger, the one that touches the 'horn.' But there should never be an ink dump collecting in the cap.

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Posted 26 January 2018 - 16:36

I experienced it in the past with a few variants of Herbin ink, which as low viscosity. But on the whole, considering they were my choice for deployment, no.

Poor Ron experienced the after effects of ballpoint users trying to gouge 18kt nibs into paper or idiots who try to flex pens designed NOT to. I don’t blame him. It’s like people slamming a plane into the ocean nose first, then complaining it leaks and won’t fly.

I suggest the poster try reseating their converter so there’s no air seepage and changing inks to see if one of the older brands designed for performance rather than special effects fixes the problem. Carenes were designed for extensive, reliable use.






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