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1920's Waterman Sterling Overlay

barrel number question

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#1 pen lady

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 21:16

I have a full size Waterman sterling overlay fountain pen, Gothic pattern, sterling Clip-Cap clip on a sterling overlay cap, made in the US and it has a #5 New York nib.  The pen is a little over 5 1/2" capped.  Now this is the question, why is it stamped 55 on the barrel end? Shouldn't it be "54" or am I totally misunderstanding the articles I've read about the numbering system?

 

 

 



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#2 crescentfiller

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 21:53

Actually, I think it should be marked 455 if it is a 5 size pen with a sterling overlay. 

The five at the end indicates the nib size.

 

Check out the great resources at vintagepens.com

 

https://vintagepens....numbering.shtml



#3 pen lady

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 22:23

Yup, that's where I looked, that and Richard Binder's site.  There's still just a 55 on the barrel end.  All I can think, is that it was mis-stamped or someone took the cap and overlay from a broken barrel and put them on a 55.  Opinions anyone?



#4 gregamckinney

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 00:55

I can't remember the specifics, but it is not uncommon, and totally correct for some overlays just to have the "base" number stamped on the barrel.

My memory is spotty, but I _think_ it was the earlier versions that had just the bhr-version numbers on them.

 

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 03:27

Thanks for the reassurance Greg.  I believe it could be quite an early pen, as the matching pencil has the simpler "propel only" mechanism. Quite a relief as I'm restoring the pen to sell the set at the Scriptus Toronto Pen Show in the Fall.  FPNers are the best.



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 10:53

The early overlay pens are super nice. Can we have a picture please?



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 13:52

Oh User01 I'd love to post a photo, but I've reached my easy-to-post limit, and am not computer-savvy enough to do it any other way.   :crybaby:   Well, it's not quite THAT bad, but you get my drift!








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