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Nemosine M Nib (Vs My Pilot Metro M Nib)

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#1 tvradio

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 14:19

Are Nemosine's M nibs appreciably wider than those of my Pilot Metropolitan M? (And if they are, how do they tend to write out of the box?) Looking for something wider than my Pilot's Japanese M nib, yet inexpensive, and the Metro-lookalike Neutrino model caught my eye.

 

 


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 18:46

Why not go with a pen with a Western/European nib? The nibs in TWSBI pens are German made Jowo nibs, and will be wider than your Metropolitan.

I have a Metropolitan that doesn't get a lot of use. (M)But no experience with the pen you are looking at.

Are you wanting to keep under what, $25-$30? The TWSBI Eco is in that number as is the Lamy Safari.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 18:54

Per the Goulet Pens nib nook tool, the two nibs look pretty much the same size.  The tool isn't 100% accurate because each individual nib (not just make/model) varies, but it gives a pretty good idea.



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 19:00

My guess is that the Nemo medium is wider (perhaps not by much). My other Nemo nibs (I do not own the medium) are on the large size for their label. My 0.8 writes like a 1.1, for example (even broader than the Goulet 1.1).

 

The nib nook makes the Nemo medium look slightly larger than the Pilot medium (to my eye).



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 20:37

Why not go with a pen with a Western/European nib? ...

Are you wanting to keep under what, $25-$30? The TWSBI Eco is in that number as is the Lamy Safari.

FYI the Nemosine is supposed to be a German (provenance unknown) nib so it is a Western/European nib. 

 

I owned two Safaris, briefly. The triangular grip didn't work for me. 


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 20:39

My guess is that the Nemo medium is wider (perhaps not by much). My other Nemo nibs (I do not own the medium) are on the large size for their label. My 0.8 writes like a 1.1, for example (even broader than the Goulet 1.1). The nib nook makes the Nemo medium look slightly larger than the Pilot medium (to my eye).

Yes, I saw that but sometimes results can be different. I bought a Safari in M and a Lamy LX in B and they not only wrote extremely close to each other but also to my Metropolitan! Yet they look different in the Nib Nook.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 00:30

Yes, I saw that but sometimes results can be different. I bought a Safari in M and a Lamy LX in B and they not only wrote extremely close to each other but also to my Metropolitan! Yet they look different in the Nib Nook.

 

Sure. That's why I told you about my Nemosine experience (with the 0.8). I don't own a Metro, of any size. Just trying to help out as I can. 



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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:02

Are Nemosine's M nibs appreciably wider than those of my Pilot Metropolitan M? (And if they are, how do they tend to write out of the box?) Looking for something wider than my Pilot's Japanese M nib, yet inexpensive, and the Metro-lookalike Neutrino model caught my eye.


I have Mets with M nibs and one Nemo with a M nib. And it's a paintbrush compared to the Mets, even though Nemosinew tend to ne dry writers.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:11

Nearly every M nib in the world writes a thicker line than a Metro M. Japanese vs Western nib sizes almost always means the western label is a wider line.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:32

Hi Tvradio,

I can't do it now, but if it can wait until tomorrow, I can post a writing sample comparing a Nemosine medium with a Pilot Metro medium... I have both... unless someone else beats me to it. :D


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:47

Hi Tvradio,

I can't do it now, but if it can wait until tomorrow, I can post a writing sample comparing a Nemosine medium with a Pilot Metro medium... I have both... unless someone else beats me to it. :D

That would be great! Thanks. 


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 05:21

Nemosine's medium nib is an actual western medium. They're nice and smooth out of the box, but a little on the dry side. I have two Nemosine Singularity(s) and they both wrote drier than any of my other medium nibbed pens. I don't know if there's a difference between their #5 (for the neutrino) and #6 (for the fission and singularity) nibs though, so ymmv..

The Neutrino is actually smaller than the Metropolitan. Check out Goulet for measurements and their nib nook to compare. Also, I suggest you look at the Sheaffer VFM. It looks just like the Metro and comes in (western) fine and medium nibs. The VFM only takes short standard international cartridges though, and I haven't experimented on getting a converter to fit.

Hope that helps 😊

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 14:54

Thanks. I just looked at an SBRE 'shootout' between the Metropolitan and the VFM (which does look remarkably similar to the Metro) and Brown says it's "almost impossible" to fit a converter in the Shaeffer. He said the Monteverde mini-converter attaches but doesn't fit inside the pen unless you only fill the converter with "a few drops" of ink. Also, unlike the Pilot, he was unable to disassemble the Shaeffer - couldn't take apart the nib/feed or the metal ring. I think that would be annoying for me. Results seem good though: marginally wider than the Metro and Brown says it's also slightly smoother.

 

It's a little interesting that the Neutrino is smaller than the VFM yet takes a converter.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 16:00

Hi TVR,

Here you go... if you still need it...

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Edited by ParkerDuofold, 19 January 2018 - 16:02.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 16:10

Just to follow-up... "Diesel-Electric" means nothing... it's just my common test phrase when I'm testing a pen. :)
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 16:32

The VFM only takes short standard international cartridges though, and I haven't experimented on getting a converter to fit.

 

Thanks. I just looked at an SBRE 'shootout' between the Metropolitan and the VFM (which does look remarkably similar to the Metro) and Brown says it's "almost impossible" to fit a converter in the Shaeffer. He said the Monteverde mini-converter attaches but doesn't fit inside the pen unless you only fill the converter with "a few drops" of ink.

 

Actually I use a monteverde mini converter with my VFM, I just had to modify it slightly: basically I trimmed the knob section at the back of the piston so that it was the same diameter as the rest of the piston:

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It works fine (though it still doesn't hold as much ink as a regular converter).



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 01:07

Just to follow-up... "Diesel-Electric" means nothing... it's just my common test phrase when I'm testing a pen. :)


I prefer to imagine that you are using it to send coded spy messages.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 03:27

I prefer to imagine that you are using it to send coded spy messages.


Ssshhhh... that's a secret... :ninja: ...now I might have to change it. :unsure:


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