What Would Be Your Pelikan Pen Wish?

[jmnav]

An M800 without the metal section lip and with a semi-flex nib like those they used to make in the early fifties for the 400 model (or else, a 400 model exactly as they did them in the early fifties, only the size of the current M800).

 

Thinking about this, any kind of nib "like they did back in the fifties" is probably beyond current Pelikan's abilities, so I thought on something that they could do: I'd want a reissue of their Pelikan 215 in blue, making sure it has an ink window (not sure their 2005 original had one) and a gold nib exactly in the shape and finish of their current steel ones (I find it more elegant than their gold counterparts).

[Jezza]

Its been mentioned before, but not enough: PLEASE get rid of those worthless trim rings at the end of the section! The serve no functional purpose, and their constant contact with ink destin them for corrosion, pitting and general ugliness in a few years.

Edited June 29, 2018 by Jezza

[bbs]

A metal strip without the palladium plating, leaving the brass to get a patina, in a tortoise stripe with gold-plated trim.

[Fatalpotato]

Sometimes I see m80x/100x on ebay that is binded with arco celluloids. Those are my favorite Pelikan models I've seen so far, although they're not official models. Some of the more regular bindes are very beautiful as well, and I'm planning to send of my black m1000 for a bind, as now I have two that are same color . My only wish after that would be to be able to purchase a 2b/3b m1000 in the future, and then send it for binding as well

[zaddick]

Since they did the jade and lapis on the m101 originals of their time, having a m101n version would be cool. Even though the remakes don't have vintage quality nibs having current materials that are not old and crumbling after 60-70 years of age on them is nice. It's the reason I went with the m101n lizard instead of an original 100n. I can always put a vintage nib on it.

 

What would be really cool would be a 100/100n with the diameter of the m800

 

In the mid 2000s Paul Rossi made some pens that were like an M101n on steroids. I don't know if this is the official name, but Rick Propas and many others have referred to the model of pen as the 800N as they use M800 nib units.They were made in various materials and some have inlay or overlays. Some were fairly simple, but all use M800 nib units, have a piston and a large ink window. They are fairly thick, probably a little fatter to grip than an M800.

 

 

 

They are better for shirt pockets than an M800 and pretty much as long unposted.

Edited June 29, 2018 by zaddick

[Freddy]

 

In the mid 2000s Paul Rossi made some pens that were like an M101n on steroids. I don't know if this is the official name, but Rick Propas and many others have referred to the model of pen as the 800N as they use M800 nib units.They were made in various materials and some have inlay or overlays. Some were fairly simple, but all use M800 nib units, have a piston and a large ink window. They are fairly thick, probably a little fatter to grip than an M800.

 

 

 

They are better for shirt pockets than an M800 and pretty much as long unposted.

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Fred

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[Driften]

 

In the mid 2000s Paul Rossi made some pens that were like an M101n on steroids. I don't know if this is the official name, but Rick Propas and many others have referred to the model of pen as the 800N as they use M800 nib units.They were made in various materials and some have inlay or overlays. Some were fairly simple, but all use M800 nib units, have a piston and a large ink window. They are fairly thick, probably a little fatter to grip than an M800.

 

 

 

They are better for shirt pockets than an M800 and pretty much as long unposted.

 

 

Very interesting! Those are some cool pens.

[jmnav]

 

In the mid 2000s Paul Rossi made some pens that were like an M101n on steroids. I don't know if this is the official name, but Rick Propas and many others have referred to the model of pen as the 800N as they use M800 nib units.They were made in various materials and some have inlay or overlays. Some were fairly simple, but all use M800 nib units, have a piston and a large ink window. They are fairly thick, probably a little fatter to grip than an M800.

 

 

They are better for shirt pockets than an M800 and pretty much as long unposted.

 

Didn't know about them, but they are really interesting.

 

One of the best things of the 400 design is that it's kind of a Tardis: much "longer" uncapped than capped. When capped it looks beautifully proportioned and a perfect size for a shirt pocket. Uncapped is longer than basically anything else on its "size division".

 

This idea, of course, comes from the 1xx design, which is even more extreme on its ratio capped/uncapped, i.e.: an uncapped 140 is almost the size of a 400, but quite shorter when capped.

 

But then, tastes have changed in that we currently prefer bigger pens -I myself prefer the M800 size, but please, don't make it any more thicker, it's perfect the way it is and its section diameter the most oustanding feature that makes me prefer it to, say, a Montblanc 146!!!

 

As it is evident, Pelikan used the 400 design to produce its current Souverän line (no wonder: to me, it's their most beautifully proportioned design), but 400 design plus M800 length makes a pen too long for a shirt pocket -time to resurrect the 1xx desing for these bigger pens, so they are as big as wanted when writing with them and, at the same time, short enough for a shirt pocket!!!

[jmnav]

 

Thinking about this, any kind of nib "like they did back in the fifties" is probably beyond current Pelikan's abilities, so I thought on something that they could do: I'd want a reissue of their Pelikan 215 in blue, making sure it has an ink window (not sure their 2005 original had one) and a gold nib exactly in the shape and finish of their current steel ones (I find it more elegant than their gold counterparts).

 

It seems Pelikan is somehow tasting those waters...

 

Not exactly my suggestion, but Pelikan's new M815 model goes towards that mark.

 

Dear Mr Pelikan sir: you started that path, now finish it! Remember: stripped blue plus gold nib the shape of your 215 steel nibs. Agree?

[1nkulus]

A sterling silver M1000 or a Stainless steel version as a VFM option.

[zaddick]

A sterling silver M1000 or a Stainless steel version as a VFM option.

 

They exist. Classic Pens partnered with Pelikan to make 500 silver M1000 and 500 M800 engraved silver pens. Unlike some other overlays you may find (which are also quite nice), these were approved and endordsed by Pelikan. They are hard to find nowadays, but they are out there.

 

[1nkulus]

@ Zaddick

 

Apart from the rarity, the gold trim is a let down. The finish is interesting.

I wouldn't mind a M400 as a compact option but w/o the GT.

Edited July 3, 2018 by 1nkulus

[economist]

Something like Pelikan GO! but can be easily repaired or interchangable nibs. M150 and higher levels are (still) too expensive for my budget and de minimus value of Indonesia's Custom (100 USD or less).

 

You know what? There are listings in *Bay of Pelikan GO! under my budget but I need to save right now.

Edited July 8, 2018 by economist

[1nkulus]

Pelikan should bring back the nib variations similar to MB or even surpass them by introducing the likes of CI, 1.1i, 1.5i etc.

 

Once you have acquired M400/600/800/1000, you are then only buying embellishments with new releases, LE's.

[Bo Bo Olson]

'87-90 W.Germany 800, in for cheap I got a 1005 and can live with it. I'd admired the W.Germany nib once when trans-mailing it....but then thought it was too thick and too heavy, liking the 600's more.

 

Late '30s full tortoise. A early Toledo with a semi-flex nib only.

 

For those who want a silver or metal 1000, there is the metal or more metallic Dutcus...which didn't sell well and lasted some 7 years.

[1nkulus]

For those who want a silver or metal 1000, there is the metal or more metallic Dutcus...which didn't sell well and lasted some 7 years.

 

I will hopefully acquire a P3100 Ductus, even though it is cartridge only and quite different to the M series.

[Jason Oliver]

...would love to see a true to form rendition of the 111NT Toledo. The 111T Originals of their Time series was good, but I've always preferred the slightly tapered piston knob on the later model 100's (100N, etc)

[Inkyways]

Pelikan M800 with a Vintage type 14k Extra Fine Nib. That's my wish.

[1nkulus]

Its been mentioned before, but not enough: PLEASE get rid of those worthless trim rings at the end of the section! The serve no functional purpose, and their constant contact with ink destin them for corrosion, pitting and general ugliness in a few years.

+1

 

That would be a great start across the range and depending upon your OCD levels, a very relevant aesthetic issue.

[DrCodfish]

Pelikan should bring back the nib variations similar to MB or even surpass them by introducing the likes of CI, 1.1i, 1.5i etc.

 

Once you have acquired M400/600/800/1000, you are then only buying embellishments with new releases, LE's.

 

 

There is up and down on the nibs, at least from the makers point of view, for buyers it is all up side. But consider Pelikans' perspective. How many of us have experienced a new pen with a nib problem, a problem worth sending back or exchanging the pen for? That business of replacing or fiddling with nibs is probably a big headache for the maker and while I am sure all of us would never be the cause of a nib problem, I am sure at least some of those nib complaints are user caused issues. With specialty nibs I am sure the problems with nibs would only increase. For me it is easy to see why they don't want to mess with specialty nibs. Unfortunate because most of the new Pels I buy (not many I will admit) go to a nib specialist for modification.