My Small Collection Of ... What?

[Hobiwan]

I began finding these particular Sheaffers some 30+ years ago, beginning with the brown one, with years elapsing between each find; so I figure they're somewhat rare.

 

 

 

 

Now, I've asked around over the years, and even posted a query on this forum back in ... '07? But to date, I'm still not sure exactly what model of Sheaffer I have. The nib is a number '59', and one presentation on Youtube referred to it as a "Sovereign II", but so, also was a different pen with White dot, and a number '79' nib (if memory serves).

 

The number '500' is on all barrels, the number '59' on both styles of nib (plain gold and two-tone), and they're all lever-fillers.

 

The closest real documentation of the pen I've found so far is an illustration of the nib (or close to it) on Richard Binder's page http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/nibs/triumph.htm chronicling the Triumph nib.

 

 

So, are these pens Sovereigns, Sovereign IIs (what would be the difference between a model and it's "II" designation)?

Does the oddball, funky-looking nib make it a different model?

Are these rare 1941 Triumph prototypes?

Should I not agonize about this and just get a life?

 

BTW, the nib writes smooth and slick as any Crest, TD or Snorkel conical nib I've handled...

 

So, any help with specific ID would be appreciated.

 

TIA, and a Happy and Prosperous 2018 to all.

 

 

 

 

 

[3rdlakerobert]

I've been looking on my computer for the Sheaffer sheet on "wire band" pens that I used to distinguish one from another. Can't find it. There are a dozen similar models, but only one with that 59 nib, called the Admiral if I remember correctly. I think they came as lever or vac fillers.

Edited January 10, 2018 by Robert111

[3rdlakerobert]

Here you go:

 

http://fountainpenboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/2825-admiral-ii-mini-collection/

[PAKMAN]

Wow, I've never seen these with the tiny triumph nibs! Hope you find your answer!

[Hobiwan]

Thank you, Robert, for that great link.

 

Irony of ironies, the thread also references The Pen Sac Co. catalog. I've been a customer since the first day. The company was founded by two of my best and earliest friends in pen-collecting, Bob Tefft and Peter Amis. Their catalog, with all the Sheaffer models with nib numbers, has been there for all these years and, of course, it's the one place I didn't look. Just goes to show ya, sometimes the answer's right under your nose ....