Recommendation For A Pen For Noodler's Ink

[Albus]

Hello

 

I looking for a pen for noodler's ink namely 54th mass.

 

The ink has some habit of gunking up my pens.

 

Therefore, I would like a recommendation for a pen that is

 

1. Higher quality

2. Slip cap

2. C/c so that I can flush it faster

3. Ease to take off feed and nib

4. Preferbly lighter as in non-brass insert

 

 

I'm thinking of parker sonnet, parker 45, parker 75, platinum cool.

 

Hahaha. After using fp for almost 10 years, I'm running out of ideas.

[SoulSamurai]

Platinum 3776?

[IndigoBOB]

Lamy Safari? It's inexpensive, but not cheap and my troublesome inks seem to work well with it.

[PAKMAN]

Of the ones you mention the 45 seems best suited to your need.

[carlos.q]

Have you tried diluting the ink a bit?

[inkstainedruth]

I'll admit that I use 54th Massachusetts in a Noodler's pen -- an ebonite Konrad. It does well in that pen, so I haven't really tried it with other pens.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Albus]

I noticed in my demonstrators noodler's 54 leaves dark residue on my feeds and nibs. They either need bleach or physical scrubbing to remove.

 

I wanted the nib and feed unit to be easily removed for cleaning.

 

Twsbi's feed are fragile and pelikan's nib and feed cannot be seperated.

 

3776's feed is friction held and the screw cap bothers me.

 

I'd like pilot vanishing point but I have no confidence the feed wouldn't melt in noodler's ink even though now it is not reported that this is still occuring.

Edited January 12, 2018 by Albus

[SoulSamurai]

I think you can pull the feed on Pelikanos?

[displacermoose]

Depending on what you mean by "higher quality" Pilot Prera seems to meet all your criteria. They are not showy or expensive (steel nib, plastic body) but are darn reliable writers that are comfortable to hold and easy to clean. If you get a black one they look very professional. If you're worried about the nib and feed both are cheap and easy to replace.

 

I work in an environment where slip caps are pretty much essential, so I've done a fair amount of research on this subject. You're going to have a hard time meeting this particular set of criteria. I've not used them, but you might look in to the offerings from Faber-Castel. Or maybe the Franklin Christophe model 20.

[eawtan]

Platinum PTL-5000A, same disassembly as Cool but with a gold nib ....

[Mech-for-i]

Actually C/C might not be a good idea, cleaning out the pen might be easier with that, but cleaning out the converter would come out a challenge. Instead I would look for a current production Acrylic or Ebonite ( no Celluloid pls ) Eye-Dropper or Piston that can fully disassemble. Noodler's own would made a good start. Considering their reputation for staining. I would stay away from any Demonstrator. FRP, Ranga, ASA and other reputable Indian brand have quite a collection of Ebonite pens and those could be good for the job. Though finding one with slip on / click cap might be a bit of a hunt but the are there.

 

If you think C/C u;timately is the way to go ; then all roads are open. a light weight ( usually meaning not metal ) slip on cap C/C fountain pen almost match each and every entry to entry/mid range pens on the market. The Sailor Neo-Ace , The Platinum Balance / Cool , The Pilot Kakuno, FPR Darjeeling etc etc ... might be even the Lamy Safari and no less a whole school of Chinese models ( their student pen actually are very well suited for these kind of temperamental inks ), say the Jinhao 991 ..

[Albus]

Thanks for all the reply!

 

I found that franklin christoph's model 20 is slip cap and c/c filled too!

[mitto]

Parker 45 would best suit your needs.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Screw out the nib&feed unit in a Pelikan, but you then need two rubber ink bulbs...one for a C/C pen and Piston for washing out the body and one with the spout cut off a bit to fit over the Pelikan feed.

Fastest that way. Less wear and tear on the piston mechanism.

With a touch of practice near as fast as taking a needle syringe to clean out a cartridge or converter and a baby bulb to clean out the feed section.

 

Of course one could remain a one ink fella and have real speed.

 

Constantly yanking out the feed to put a new nib on....will wear out your pen quickly....in years instead of decades.

A P-75 (which allows that...but the nib and feeds units are $75+)....light for silver a perfectly balanced pen, but you will have to replace the rubber sac with the P-51's fiberglass type one in you are using a supersaturated ink. They can eat a rubber sac in a week in some cases. It's a bell and whistle, but the nib unit turns to allow you to set in how much cant you desire.

 

 

By the way regular non-supersaturated inks clean out faster and don't gunk up the works. In this The Golden Age of Inks, you should be able to find one similar to your Noodlers ink.

If you have a western F or wider, shading inks are good, if you have 90g or better paper. EF or narrower don't shade.

 

Forgot....the P-75 is a triple ink loader. When I got mine back before the Dark Ages in 1970.....I knew how to fill one so tossed the box with out looking underneath for the cartridge....that was pre-converter days. It was a shock to me to find out it took cartridges when I got on FPN.

 

The P-75 was also made in very pretty lacquer coated brass, so it don't have to be (hatchback) Sterling Silver Cisele.

 

It is standard sized......which is why it has such very great balance....posted.

Edited January 19, 2018 by Bo Bo Olson

[rwilsonedn]

Given your problems with the ink, I would suggest that you use the most expendable pen you can find. Sooner or later you are going to face the choice of throwing away the pen or completely disassembling it for a thorough cleaning. That's not an inexpensive choice with a valuable pen. Or of course you could explore inks from other sources, like, say, pen manufacturers.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Or of course you could explore inks from other sources, like, say, pen manufacturers.""""

[Mister5]

How about switching to a different ink, or seeing if you might have a bum batch with your bottle of 54th? The closest blue black with that saturation I can think of and have used is Pelikan Tanzanite, but doesn't have that level of permanence that 54th Mass has.

 

Can't think of other pens that you've considered meeting your criteria other than the Platinum Plasir. If you have issues with the nib/feed just replace it with one from a Preppy.

[Pentode]

Parker 45 is, in fact, the pen I designated for my Noodlers inks. As you suspected, it meets all your criteria. Furthermore, if youre patient youre likely to find one at a yard sale or flea market for <$10.

 

They are very easy to clean but do keep in mind that the parts are quite small. Having had to rescue a 45 nib from a hungry bathroom sink drain once, I speak from personal experience!

[Inkling13]

I would say complete cleaning and constant disassembly even for the pens that would allow for it would be iladvised. Those parts arent designed to take that much wear, and the residue you see is harmless. I would try dilution over anything else, and once that, find it a dedicated pen of your liking.

[georgeb]

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