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Size Of Mb 146 Vs Mb Writer Edition?

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#1 wpj_ole

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 04:47

Hello guys,

I would love to get some opinion on the size of pen. I've been thinking about getting the famous 146 (which I would have to order online, probably some nice second-hand if available--don't have any place to buy MB in my area) but I'm not sure if it will really fits my small hand.

In my collection, I have:
145 classic
Poe (away for fix)
St. Exupery 2017
149 (Oh, well...)

- I've been using either Lamy2000 or 145 as my edc, both of which are pretty nice to hold.
- Poe is good also (as far as I can remember, hadn't used it that much).
- 2017 St. Exupery is somehow not something that I really like to pick up.
I'm not sure if it is because of the size or the metal screw that makes it feel weird.
Or because its metal part makes it more slippery, thus, feeling harder to use.
I'm sure I feel better with Poe.

- I have tried 146 at the boutique in Chicago once...(I didn't try it that long though. The lady who is a store manager (whom I, thinking back now, will not at all feel guilty to refer to as 'overly-arrogant') in MB Bloomingdale seems to have an attitude and lose interest in me right away after I hesitated when she asked me: "Do you want to take one home today?" (Ma'am, it's almost a 1000$ pen!)
Another nice employee who took care of me also unintentionally mentioned:
"I don't want to get into trouble because of the manager.")
So it's a somewhat weird visit.

yet, as much as I remember, that short holding and writing in 146
doesn't feel the best to me. Probably somewhere between good and okay.
- On the other hand, 149, which I had always overlooked due to my small hands,
feels pretty comfortable to use. While gigantuan, it seems to float in my hand.
As though it was in there just doing its big job--like it's an airplane and I'm only a small pilot controling it!
(In contrary to lamy2000/MB145, which are nice pens, but don't seem to have much characterstics in my hand.)

Considering my hand kinda gets fatique when writing in 2017 writer edition,
(Can't pin down if it's the size or metal part that might require more effort when it gets slippery).

Do you think this is legitimate enough to say that I'm one of those people who are more of 149 than 146?
Particularly, there are small-hand people who either go small or big?

(146 platinum is just so gorgeous and tempting! But I'm so undecided about acquiring one.
Esp. given my location, I can't try it. It's as though whenever I might wanna get one I get writer edition instead!)

Thanks for your opinion!

Edited by wpj_ole, 19 December 2017 - 05:38.


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#2 pwsuba

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 15:06

The writer's editions are about the same size as the 146. I have both an Exupéry and a 146 ultrablack. For me, at least, they are both comfortable to use.
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Hopefully that may give a decent representation of the 146 v Exupéry v Beatles.

Edited by pwsuba, 19 December 2017 - 15:07.


#3 whichwatch

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 15:13

It's pretty hard for someone to say how a pen will feel in YOUR ​hand, or which size suits you better.  Sometimes it depends on how much or how long you are writing.

 

Personally, I keep a variety of pens and nibs in my collection so I can pick what suits my style or need at the particular time.

 

Here are two  photos containing a comparison of some of the pens you mentioned.  I'm not sure if it will help you at all, but perhaps it will help you evaluate the 146 compared to others you know.

 

Left to Right:  146, Schiller, Woolf, Poe, Dostoyevsky, 149

 

 

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#4 Chrissy

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 15:16

Meisterstück146 nibs are the same size as Writer's Edition nibs.



#5 BillH

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 15:23

The Dumas WE is comparable to the 149 for width and nib size.  May be others but I do not own them.

 

@whichwatch  thanks for the excellent reference pics!


Edited by BillH, 19 December 2017 - 15:28.

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 15:30

The 146 stabs me in fleshy webbing between thumb and index finger when unposted, not good.

 

Many LEs are 146, probably most of the writer's (just a guess, don't burn me at the stake)

 

LEs in the collection, the Verne and Proust stab me unposted.

 

Posting the Verne is putting a boat anchor on the back of your pen, the Proust is perfectly balanced when posted.



#7 Reed_thoughts

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 15:38

in my small MB conglomerate i tend to gravitate more towards the 146 instead of the special editions...

 

Still, for the most part i find the special ed to be just a dressed 146.



#8 Driften

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 17:03

It's pretty hard for someone to say how a pen will feel in YOUR ​hand, or which size suits you better.  Sometimes it depends on how much or how long you are writing.

 

Personally, I keep a variety of pens and nibs in my collection so I can pick what suits my style or need at the particular time.

 

Here are two  photos containing a comparison of some of the pens you mentioned.  I'm not sure if it will help you at all, but perhaps it will help you evaluate the 146 compared to others you know.

 

Left to Right:  146, Schiller, Woolf, Poe, Dostoyevsky, 149

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much for the pictures! I love your WE's.



#9 zaddick

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 17:39

The Dumas WE is comparable to the 149 for width and nib size.  May be others but I do not own them.
 
@whichwatch  thanks for the excellent reference pics!


Of the WE pens, the Dumas and Hemingway use the larger #9 nib. The rest use the #6 like the 146. WhIle those WE pens based on the 146 use the same size nib, they can feel very different in the hand due to weight, girth, length, and threads (as some others noted for specific examples).

If you like the 149, the 146 may feel small, but it will be mainly in width, not so much length.

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 18:00

I echo what the others have said. While the pens may seem similar on size, all three of mine have different feel.

The Beatles is rather heavy, easily double the weight of the others it's grip section is rather slick I have adopted by gripping more the threads/ shoulder. The pen is very balanced for my use.

The Exupéry is much closer to then 146 in weight as they are both resin pens. I find the Exupéry a bit more balanced in my hand the metal in the section balances with the cone. With the OB not it has been three open I've used longest in a single sitting.

146 is there lightest, imo it had that perfect pen feel. I do wish the cone was resin not metal. I'm causes the pen to feel like it's tipping out of my hand at time.

But overall, you have to feel what's right for you. I think about what each pen is for when I contemplate the purchase. I'm fairly sure the Beatles is going in for an OBB swap as though it's balanced the overall weight has caused me to feel, as I suspected, it's more of a signature pen.

#11 BillH

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 19:29

Of the WE pens, the Dumas and Hemingway use the larger #9 nib. The rest use the #6 like the 146. WhIle those WE pens based on the 146 use the same size nib, they can feel very different in the hand due to weight, girth, length, and threads (as some others noted for specific examples).

If you like the 149, the 146 may feel small, but it will be mainly in width, not so much length.

 

 

Thank you zaddick.  I wasn't positive on the Hemingway since I do not have one yet.  And I get to be one of the lucky folks.  I love BOTH the 146 and 149 sizes, both 'regular' and WE.  (I get along well with most Pelikan sizes as well)


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Posted 19 December 2017 - 20:16

I find the long length medium width Wilde and Dostoevsky best for long writing sessions unposted. However my daily pens are a platinum 149 in OB and a Fine Exupéry at the moment.

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 20:17

 
 
Thank you zaddick.  I wasn't positive on the Hemingway since I do not have one yet.  And I get to be one of the lucky folks.  I love BOTH the 146 and 149 sizes, both 'regular' and WE.  (I get along well with most Pelikan sizes as well)


Bill - the Hemingway is a real looker in my opinion (and judging by the price,any others too). But if you have a Dumas the form factor is the same for the most part so you are not missing much in terms of hand feel or writing. The Hemingway uses a stock 149 nib so not even anything special to look at.

I will say if you get one and like springy nibs, I have known others to swap in a vintage 14C tri-tone #9 and ebonite feed into the pen. The feelarches the 139 lol of the pen much better. Of course, not a cheap proposition!

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 20:56

Here are two  photos containing a comparison of some of the pens you mentioned.  I'm not sure if it will help you at all, but perhaps it will help you evaluate the 146 compared to others you know.

 

Left to Right:  146, Schiller, Woolf, Poe, Dostoyevsky, 149

 

~ whichwatch:

 

Thank you for the beautiful comparison images.

 

You've included models which I especially admire, but have heretofore never seen next to a 149.

 

Tom K.







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