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#21 Poetman

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 16:13

Thanks for these replies. If in increase my budget a bit could I welcome a considerably better fp?

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 16:24

All the fountain pens mentioned are very decent pens, so the most significance increasing your budget would do, is allow you to find more pens that meet your requirement for shape, and filling system, though outside of Montblanc and some vintage Pelikans, you may still find mass produced piston filling cigar shaped pens to not be very numerous. 


Edited by JakobS, 06 December 2017 - 16:26.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 17:18

I would say Montblanc 146 or Sailor Realo. Both will take a while to find a used one uder $200 but there are just not a lot of cigar shaped piston filling pens in my mind.

With a $250 budget, I think you can find a used 146 pretty easily or even buy a new Realo.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:05

All the fountain pens mentioned are very decent pens, so the most significance increasing your budget would do, is allow you to find more pens that meet your requirement for shape, and filling system, though outside of Montblanc and some vintage Pelikans, you may still find mass produced piston filling cigar shaped pens to not be very numerous. 


Why not numerous? Are piston fill pens usually square shaped not rounded? Werent pens usually some version of a piston fill system ( or something similar) where the body held the ink not a converter?

Edited by Poetman, 07 December 2017 - 03:06.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:21

Why not numerous? Are piston fill pens usually square shaped not rounded? Werent pens usually some version of a piston fill system ( or something similar) where the body held the ink not a converter?


Is that what you mean cigar shaped and piston fill?

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:56

Why not numerous? Are piston fill pens usually square shaped not rounded? Werent pens usually some version of a piston fill system ( or something similar) where the body held the ink not a converter?


Most modern cigar shaped pens are cartridge/converter filling pens it appears. The cigar shape is predominantly found in Asian pens these days, and piston fillers have never been a significant filling system for Japanese, and Chinese pen manufacturers. Though various attempts at piston filler fountain pens were made since the mid-19th century, they werent perfected until the 1920s and commercialized by Pelikan and then Montblanc and a number of other European brands. As far as U.S. made, the Conklin Novac was the only successful commercial piston fill line. Pelikan for a number of decades and Montblanc until modern day made a number of models in a cigar shape, but otherwise diverged into a great many shapes, some may have a cigar shaped body, but not cap, or vis versa, and not truly a cigar shape. The most dominant filling system in vintage fountain pens was most likely eyedroppers, followed by lever fillers, or a filling system utilizing a latex sac.

Edited by JakobS, 07 December 2017 - 23:17.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 06:55

In terms of modern pens I imagine most were picturing the Lamy 2000 until you mentioned screw cap.

 

I can see why you asked.  It's a good question I don't have an answer for.  A gap in the fountain pen world.


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