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#1 Poetman

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 20:28

What would you all suggest as an everyday workhorse pen that meets the following criteria:

 

Black

Cigar shape

Not heavy (Parker Sonnet, Watmern Expert range)

Piston-Fill

Must post

Preferably twist cap

Nib should be stiff, not flexy

can be found used for <$200


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#2 TheRealMikeDr

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 20:57

Maybe a Pilot Custom Heritage 92 although it's not 100% cigar shaped - but close.



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Posted 28 November 2017 - 21:03

Maybe a Pilot Custom Heritage 92 although it's not 100% cigar shaped - but close.

 

 

This is what i came up with too.

 

Mass production of cigar shaped pens are mostly found in Japanese and Chinese pens, and piston fillers are not very common amongst them. You can find some custom pen makers creating them in the US, but they would be about $175-180 over your budget at least.  


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 21:35

​I also have a Pilot Custom Heritage 92, and I highly recommend it!  C. S.  



#5 Chrissy

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 22:27

Some Pelikans fit most of the requirements but are not cigar shaped.  -_-


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 22:36

I would get a Pelikan M205.


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 22:46

Except for being a pop-top, a Lamy 2000 perhaps.

 

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 00:41

Vintage Pelikan 120 or 140 may fit your criteria

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 01:02

Pelikan M200... But not cigar shaped. Does the Custom 92 come in Black? I've only seen it in the translucent colors - smoke grey being the closest (also suffers from not being cigar shaped). Great workhorse pen too.

Racking my small brain to come up with something non-vintage... Vintage Aurora 88/88K/88P?

One of those Fountain Pen Revolution pens might hit all the criteria (and be way way below your budget) but I haven't used one.

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#10 Runnin_Ute

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:04

If it needs to be new, certainly one of the Pelikan M2xx pens. Sure it isn't cigar shaped, but they come in multiple colors, including black.

Platinum 3776 Century has a black version. (I have the Bourgogne, others prefer the Chartres Blue)It is a c/c pen though.

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:06

Might be able to find a 1911 Realo for around that price. Maybe a 146 from the 70's too.



#12 Chrissy

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:07

If it needs to be new, certainly one of the Pelikan M2xx pens. Sure it isn't cigar shaped, but they come in multiple colors, including black.

Platinum 3776 Century has a black version. (I have the Bourgogne, others prefer the Chartres Blue)It is a c/c pen though.

 
It doesn't need to be new. His criteria includes 'can be found used for <$200'
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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:13

It doesn't need to be new. His criteria includes 'can be found used for <$200'


New or used we both know the M200/M205 is under $200... Heck I paid under $50 for my old style blue marbled....

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#14 Chrissy

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 04:16

I bet that if I looked for a while I could find a used Montblanc 146 for less than $200.  :)


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Posted 29 November 2017 - 05:14

sailor 1911 Realo fits the bill. Buy it directly from Japan and you could find one within your budget. You can look at a vintage Pelican 400NN from Rick Propas. 



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Posted 29 November 2017 - 06:39

What would you all suggest as an everyday workhorse pen that meets the following criteria:

 

Black

Cigar shape

Not heavy (Parker Sonnet, Watmern Expert range)

Piston-Fill

Must post

Preferably twist cap

Nib should be stiff, not flexy

can be found used for <$200

A few pens will fit your budget:

 

Used MB146

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Posted 29 November 2017 - 06:47

1950s Montblancs from the economy range: 342, 244, Monte Rosa etc.

 

1970s Merz and Krell Pelikan 120 (available with black or green barrel.)

 

Other German school pens from Geha, Senator etc.

 

Used Sailor Realo is possible; I got one for under $150, though I was lucky. New from Japan will be a little over $200.

 

Used MB146 seem to start around $230 in reasonable condition. Again, sumgais (lucky breaks) do happen.



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Posted 29 November 2017 - 12:00

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#19 Poetman

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 21:45

I have an M200, which I love, but it's a bit light for my taste. I want something a bit heavier. 

 

Any thoughts on the Realo vs a MB 146? (I wish Waterman had piston fps. I don't think I've ever used nibs as smooth as theirs! Even their fine nibs feel unbelievably smooth.)



#20 BlueJ

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 22:49

There are threads on FPN about comparing the Sailor Realo to the (superficially very similar) Montblanc 146. Do a search; I think there was even a review with side-by-side photos. Both are excellent fountain pens but with very different character.  

 

The only striking cosmetic difference is that the Realo has an exposed ink window while the 146's is covered when capped. The two pens are very close in length capped, while the MB is about 6mm longer uncapped, mainly due to a longer piston knob.

 

In any given nominal tip size (say M) Sailor FPs are much finer than MBs, for example the Sailor M might be comparable to MB F. Out of the box Sailors may write drier, but that can be adjusted. Sailors also have more feedback, but again that can be changed (preferably by a recognized nibmeister, unless the user has a lot of experience in nib tuning.)

 

The Montblanc 146 is a bit heavier and feels more solid, but both pens have excellent fit and finish. Hope this helps.








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