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#1 steven r

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 16:31

Are these by Cross? if not, I will be!!

Hi, I recently picked these up at an Antique fair believing they were vintage Cross ballpoints, something about the cap clip and the rings triggered something in my brain.

Now after thinking that I had eventually got one over the antique dealers I am not so sure. 

When i got home I noticed that one of the pens has a Cross named refill in it (hopes soared) the other has the same design but no name,IIMG04954-20171125-1446.jpg IMG04955-20171125-1446.jpg cannot find any google images or info about them so your help would be much appreciated.

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#2 Zookie

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 18:03

I'm certainly no expert, but my guess would be that they would be marked Cross somewhere on the pen. They are very nice looking pens though.



#3 Conan the Grammarian

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Posted 25 November 2017 - 21:31

I've run across lots of no-name ballpoint pens configured to take Cross ballpoint refills.

 

I'm guessing those are examples of that.


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#4 Jerome Tarshis

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 09:51

Yes. It needn't be only no-name ballpoint pens that take Cross refills. Many brands use either the Cross or the Parker refill standard. But neither the pen nor the refill would necessarily be made by Parker or Cross.



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Posted 27 November 2017 - 19:59

Yes. It needn't be only no-name ballpoint pens that take Cross refills. Many brands use either the Cross or the Parker refill standard. But neither the pen nor the refill would necessarily be made by Parker or Cross.

Hi, and thank for your input, i presume by the answers that these are not Cross  pens, they are heavy pens and look well made so any ideas or directions where i can find more info on them.



#6 Chrissy

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 22:21

The clips and the pointed ends look like chrome to me. Are there any silver hallmarks on the pens anywhere?


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Posted 28 November 2017 - 20:56

The clips and the pointed ends look like chrome to me. Are there any silver hallmarks on the pens anywhere?

I have been through them with an eye glass, no silver marks (unfortunately), no Cross, in fact  nothing at all, the one that is less decorative shows a few spots of plate loss and it looks like brass underneath, they are quite heavy so brass with some coating?,

Thanks for your input Chrissy








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