Help Needed On Gucci Doctor's Pen And Thermo

[crescentfiller]

Hello All, and thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

 

I recently picked up an awfully nice little Gucci sterling and gold cased ballpoint pen and thermometer.

The pen is marked Gucci, Made in Italy, Sterling 925 (and a hallmark I cannot quite make out).

The 925 and hallmark are on the case, too. The thermometer is marked Made in England.

 

The gold bits look like they might be solid gold and the hallmark looks like it "might" be 585, making it 14K, but I'm not sure.

 

Has anyone seen one of these? I searched and can find no records or references.

 

Thanks,

Daniel

[jar]

The hall mark you can't read might be important. See if it is a star followed by 4561Fl .

[crescentfiller]

Hello Jar, and thanks for looking!

 

It is not 4561F1. I am attaching a couple of pics that will hopefully be clear enough to show the mark.

[crescentfiller]

And a brightened pic

[jar]

Can't read it. An Italian Makers Mark will be a star, number and then a two character location code. Here is an example showing one of the Montegrappa Guild Marks.

 

http://www.fototime.com/5F7F9551DB07A3A/large.jpg

[crescentfiller]

Thanks Jar!

 

I'm fairly certain this one begins with a two-digit number (53? 58?) and then a two character figural hallmark of some sort. Neither stamp in very clear.

 

Has anyone every seen one of these pen/thermo sets before?

[jar]

Thanks Jar!

 

I'm fairly certain this one begins with a two-digit number (53? 58?) and then a two character figural hallmark of some sort. Neither stamp in very clear.

 

Has anyone every seen one of these pen/thermo sets before?

Yes. A pen and thermometer was fairly common from many makers. Most were two pens, each devoted to one task and sold as a pair.

[crescentfiller]

Yes, I've seen the Parker Vac-style thermometer holders.

I guess I was wondering if anyone has seen one of these Gucci pieces and if they knew anything about the date of manufacture.

[LetiziaJac]

oh...

I have actually never seen anything of this kind but it really seems a product Gucci had manufactured on commission by some silver/precious metal workshop in the 1960's. If you look at their ball and fountain pens, they basically chose a model ( which in most of the times is not really high quality by our standards) and had them personalized with the red/green band or with some logo addition. This is a nice and certainly stylish item which may have been produced by a workshop in Florence or anywhere else and that Gucci decide to market with their own logo..

By the ay, I cannot see the Gucci engraving or logo, is it on the other side?

[crescentfiller]

Letizia, Thank you so much for the detailed analysis. I appreciate your input greatly!

Yes, the Gucci engraving is on the other side of the pen (the case is not marked, but the bands make it obvious). I will snap another photo to show where it is marked "Gucci."

Do you think the bands might be solid gold or gold filled if made on commission by a workshop as you suggest? The pen is marked Sterling and there is a hallmark on the sterling portion of the case, but the gold-colored bands are not marked.

 

Thanks again!