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Montblanc 146... Real Or Fake?!

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#1 xiatix

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 16:49

Hello. I have been given this pen for my eighteenth birthday, and i love it... but i have some questions whether it is real or not. It was given to me by my grandfather i i have no idea what year it is(surely not new) and some aspects don't match... help me please!

I was using red ink, so the slot for the ink capacity is red for that reason, i have polished it with micromeshed and tampered with the nib a bit because i wanted to tune it perfectly, and i love doing this stuff by myself

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#2 Wolverine1

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 13:24

It looks like a real MB pen. You might post this question on the Mont Blanc sub-forum where a lot of experts will see your question, and thus will comment on the question.

 

 

 

 

 

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Already moved the post to the Montblanc forum


Edited by RMN, 22 November 2017 - 14:23.


#3 Chrissy

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 15:02

This one looks like an authentic Meisterstück Le Grand or 146.  :)

 

Micromesh is too rough to use on the resin surface of a pen.  :yikes: Only use a Sunshine cloth or maybe a little plastic polish



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 15:21

That looks good, piston filler?

 

Is there a serious market for fake 146?



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 16:04

That looks good, piston filler?

 

Is there a serious market for fake 146?

 

There are some that are a similar size but they are C/C fillers. Some say there are fake piston fillers but the closest I've ever seen had an internal converter inside and you unscrewed the end cone to twist it.



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 21:09

The barrel and cap should not be opaque, for one thing.  There are a number of blogs, reviews, etc. on the net that can help you discover whether your pen is a fake.  The FP Network is very helpful here.  Just Google the following:  how to spot a fake Montblanc pen.



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 23:10

Well, the barrel and cap should be opaque (you should not be able to see through them under normal lighting conditions), and the plastic may glow through red if you put a bright light behind it.

 

The pen has every appearance of being genuine.  The little lip on the end of the gripping section, just before where the nib is, does look right, as do the threads.  The scrollwork and lettering on the nib also looks right.  Piston-filling fakes are exceptionally rare  as they are expensive to manufacture; while there is rumor they exist, I don't believe we have ever seen one in this forum.


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 23:21

Well, the barrel and cap should be opaque (you should not be able to see through them under normal lighting conditions), and the plastic may glow through red if you put a bright light behind it.

 

The pen has every appearance of being genuine.  The little lip on the end of the gripping section, just before where the nib is, does look right, as do the threads.  The scrollwork and lettering on the nib also looks right.  Piston-filling fakes are exceptionally rare  as they are expensive to manufacture; while there is rumor they exist, I don't believe we have ever seen one in this forum.

 

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 01:24

Looks like a 1970s MB based on its ink window and split ebonite feed. Great pen and great version/period. Good 18th birthday gift - lucky you :)

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 01:34

Looks like a 1970s MB based on its ink window and split ebonite feed. Great pen and great version/period. Good 18th birthday gift - lucky you :)


1970s to mid 1980s uses a gold monotone nib. That looks like a late 1980snpen before they moved to the slotted ink view.

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 01:36

Well, the barrel and cap should be opaque (you should not be able to see through them under normal lighting conditions), and the plastic may glow through red if you put a bright light behind it.
 
The pen has every appearance of being genuine.  The little lip on the end of the gripping section, just before where the nib is, does look right, as do the threads.  The scrollwork and lettering on the nib also looks right.  Piston-filling fakes are exceptionally rare  as they are expensive to manufacture; while there is rumor they exist, I don't believe we have ever seen one in this forum.

Several photos of the fakes with pistons have been posted, but in the 149 size. The ones I am thinking of are demonstrators. I have one and have posted photos of it before. I am on my phone so cannot post again here.

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:13

I wouldn"t put much store in the "red glow" test as both my counterfeit Mb glow red when a pen torch is used.



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Posted 23 November 2017 - 13:18

1970s to mid 1980s uses a gold monotone nib. That looks like a late 1980snpen before they moved to the slotted ink view.

correct, I missed the dual tone nib - I have a 70s monotone nib so I shouldve know

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 16:59

I wouldn"t put much store in the "red glow" test as both my counterfeit Mb glow red when a pen torch is used.

 

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 17:00

thanks Zaddick, as always on here!



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Posted 23 November 2017 - 17:01

Several photos of the fakes with pistons have been posted, but in the 149 size. The ones I am thinking of are demonstrators. I have one and have posted photos of it before. I am on my phone so cannot post again here.

 

Are these not specially made demonstrator pens rather than cheap fakes?  :huh:



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Posted 23 November 2017 - 23:49

What a wonderful 146. Congratulations on this beautiful present. You are loved.

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 01:59

 
Are these not specially made demonstrator pens rather than cheap fakes?  :huh:


Yes, the ones I have seen are demo pens, but if they were made of black resin instead they would be pretty good fakes. The cost of all the plastic and metal bits other than the nib are pretty low so it is easily feasible to make a fake piston filler 149 or 149. I am not saying they are common, just that the fact a pen is a piston fill is no longer a guarantee in itself of a genuine pen.

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Posted 24 November 2017 - 17:31

Thank you all! I am really glad i have this wonderful pen to write with and will continue with my passion about fountain pens surely, what a great forum❤️

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Posted 28 November 2017 - 19:19

What a wonderful 146. Congratulations on this beautiful present. You are loved.

thank you very much!







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