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Interesting - is there no cap? It is certainly not an English Swan. Clearly a lever filler and so I suppose 1930s US manufacture.

 

I am certain that no English Swan was produced in the material.

 

Although many English Swans did not carry a number, all had the Swan logo and Mabie Todd & Co Ltd, Made in England stamped upon them.

 

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It does have a cap, in the second image. I will try to get the lever and clip in another image, I'm on mobile now. The lever is just a simple flat piece of metal with a groove. The clip had the Swan emblem and is the humped clip.

 

I believe it is US made - the nib is but it could be a replacement. The body has no markings.

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This is Marc's area of excellence!

Images of the clip, nib, lever and feed would be helpful.

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Very nice, very hard to find pen.

So, i’m going to very gingerly place that as a 1933 American Swan. 1932 was the last year they made Eternal Swans, and the step clip seemed to have gone on a year or two more. However, it’s entirely possible it’s late 30’s made with whatever parts they still had on hand. There are no catalogs or ads from post 1932, so dating it is a lot of educational guesswork. (Edit: without any barrel imprint suggests late production)

I think the nib is incorrect. They made those pens in 2, 4, or 6. You say it’s a fairly thick pen, so either a 4 or a 6, but seems to be a 4.(edit: 2 cap rings is usually a 4 nib, 3 cap rings or stacked coin is a 6 nib)

The plastic was widely used by Mabie Todd and other New York manufacturers (waterman and Camel come to mind).

Post-Eternal MT pens with step clips are rarely seen. It’s not that they are great quality or anything, you sort of need to be obsessed (like me) to care.

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