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#1 Mike-S

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 14:38

I'm toying with the idea of buying a Uni Kuru Toga rotating lead pencil.

Does the system work and are they reliable in the long term ?

 

Thank you,

 

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#2 Mister5

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 15:33

I have a Uni Kuru Toga Roulette and it works. I'm not a very extensive user however, having only had it for less than a year, so please take what I say with a grain of salt.

 

Since the one I have is a 0.5 mm, rotating the pencil would be less of an issue anyway than if I was using a 0.7 mm lead. I have a Lamy Scribble 0.7 mm, and I have to rotate that all the time to get a very fine line. I don't have to rotate the Kuru Toga l at all though, and the lead lasts a long time. I know there are some reviews that say you may have to rotate the pencil if you write in cursive, but that hasn't been my experience with the 0.5 mm HB lead. I'm using the provided Kuro Toga leads. The Roulette feels pretty sturdy, more like an engineering / Rotring 600 at the bottom half of the barrel, with plastic towards the the top. It has a very good feel (my daughter - 3rd grade - really liked it). For me the downside to the Roulette is that the metal extendy piece where the lead comes out does not retract so it can be a little harrowing putting it in my shirt pocket, and if it dropped that part might become bent, and I'd have to get another Roulette. Considering they cost less than most Fountain Pens and at least half of a Scribble, the cost is not a real concern. I think the Kuru Toga Slide Pipe and the newer Advance have retractible nibs, which would give additional protection for those drops, and may make a better EDC than a Roulette... my Roulette mostly stays home and I tend to carry the Lamy Scribble a bit more for that reason. 


Edited by Mister5, 31 October 2017 - 15:35.

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 18:56

Well, the KT mechanism was really designed with short strokes in mind. For printing & number work, they're great.They're fine pencils even if you use them a way that prevents the rotation from keeping up, but if I'm writing cursive, I tend toward different pencils with larger lead diameter. I've edc'd a Roulette in a Nock case for three years with no problems, not so much as a broken lead,  Still looks & functions like new.

 

The Pipe Slide & Advance do have retractable tips & a faster rotation, but the mechanism compression is more pronounced than on the Roulette. At least it is with my Pipe Slide.



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Posted 31 October 2017 - 19:37

They're good pencils and I haven't had any problems with reliability or quality. I just happen not to like them. Firstly the mechanism by necessity has a wobble to it when you put pencil to paper, which I dislike. Secondly, if you write lightly and / or write in cursive the mechanism doesn't really work.

 

Loads of people love them, though (including my wife) so it's worth a try. They're not very expensive so it's not a great loss if you decide it's not for you.



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 02:09

Do not get the Kuru Toga in 0.3m. The sharp edge constantly snags on the paper and even tears it occasionally. After much frustration, I finally gave it away.

 

The 0.5 Kuru Toga works fine, but I don't use it much. The tip wiggle caused by the mechanism whenever you put the lead to paper or lift it is very noticeable to me. However, I bet someone not already used to rock steady lead holders or drafting pencils would probably never notice it.

 

Anyways, it stays on my work desk as a loaner. Everyone seems to like it.

 

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#6 Mike-S

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 14:52

Thanks for te replies people. As I'm averse to wobbly tips I reckon I'll give the pencil a miss and stay with my Tombow Solo 100 wooden writing stick.

 

Mike-S


Edited by Mike-S, 01 November 2017 - 14:53.

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 15:39

I have a Kuru Toga in 0.5 and it works perfectly fine with latin & cyrillic script, exactly as it should/ as advertized.

 

To me it's kind of useless though, as a normal 0.5 is fine enough and does its job perfectly.

 

I'd wish for a self-sharpening pencil in 0.7 and up and I think it makes a lot more sense in 0.7+, sadly they discontinued 0.7 in Europe (not sure about Japan).

 

I think Zebra did a great job with the Delguard, which is to me much more useful and also works flawlessly (no self sharpening, but protecting the lead with retractable sleeves).

 

You made your decision already, but I thought I'd nonetheless throw in my 5 pence too :)



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Posted 03 November 2017 - 00:39

The Delguard is one of my favorite pencils. I don't benefit in any way from it's lead protecting mechanisms since I've been writing with 0.3 lead for 20 years without any problem with lead breaking, but it's a very comfortable pencil to use.

 

If you're at all sensitive to lead or tip wiggle, I would recommend the Delguard over the Kuru Toga.

 

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 08:55

Before I use to use the standard number 2 pencils for drawings and graphs in school and have had problems of pencil not being sharp enough or lead breakage. But the day I got the uni kuru toga man all those problems vanished. I can write really small with the 0.5 and I can use it for writing cursive and it is more consistent than a standard pencil. and also with my pencil, i always never find the sharpener and it makes my eraser black. but with the kuru toga, I don't have to sharpen it at all.

I would definitely recommend it for sure!!!!!



#10 Mike-S

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:27

The Delguard is one of my favorite pencils. I don't benefit in any way from it's lead protecting mechanisms since I've been writing with 0.3 lead for 20 years without any problem with lead breaking, but it's a very comfortable pencil to use.

 

If you're at all sensitive to lead or tip wiggle, I would recommend the Delguard over the Kuru Toga.

 

--flatline

Thanks for the info -flatline. The Delguard certainly looks Interesting.

 

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#11 tamiya

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 15:05

Bought Kurutoga soon as they came out, bought a few more each time they made cheaper versions... all work fine. IMHO mechanism works fine but perhaps unneeded.

I prefer something with self-advancing lead or a shaker type, better than moving hand to press top.

However have not yet tried any of the specialist Kurutoga leads with different grade/hardness between centre core and outside. Perhaps these may make Kurutoga more worthwhile.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 03:39

the Kuro-Toga is ok but I'm really leaning on the del-guard for the lead break mechanism but what ever floats your boat the Kuro-Toga Advance while is more expensive is the better fitted pencil of the kuro-toga line up though and that you practically benefit from the engine if you totally write in print

Edited by Algester, 07 November 2017 - 03:40.







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