Pilot Falcon Sef/sf Nib Vs. Omas Extra Flexible Ef Nib

[KellyMcJ]

 

On Rhodia:

 

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wow, that looks really broad compared to my Falcon. Maybe mine will get broader as it gets more use.

 

Here is mine, normal writing, nothing special. I don't have any super fines to compare it too, but it's as fine as anything I own (but wetter than some.)

 

[miel]

I love my Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with FA nib.

It is smooth and easy to write with and gives a nice line variation with out much pressure.

(Bought via ebay france.)

 

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

OK, that FA looks like a nice nib with at least 3X tine spread.

The ground out side wings is where that Ahab Mod came from.....so one does expect at least maxi-semi-flex from it.

 

If you would, I'd like to see light down stroke vertical vs flexed vertical.

Edited October 31, 2017 by Bo Bo Olson

[AmandaW]

 

wow, that looks really broad compared to my Falcon. Maybe mine will get broader as it gets more use.

 

 

I have hardly used it, that's what it was like out of the box in July. I was really disappointed and tend to use the Platinum instead. I like the wetness of the Falcon and it is smooth, but the line is too broad.

[KellyMcJ]

 

I have hardly used it, that's what it was like out of the box in July. I was really disappointed and tend to use the Platinum instead. I like the wetness of the Falcon and it is smooth, but the line is too broad.

Yours looks broad to me. Have you tried a drier ink?

 

Then again there are differences between individual nibs.

 

Now that I've experienced The Falcon, I want one in extra fine too.

[Uncial]

I love my Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with FA nib.

It is smooth and easy to write with and gives a nice line variation with out much pressure.

(Bought via ebay france.)

 

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That's almost exactly what I get out of my FA 823 but with extremely fine hairlines. It's a really good nib.

[Nikaa]

 

I have hardly used it, that's what it was like out of the box in July. I was really disappointed and tend to use the Platinum instead. I like the wetness of the Falcon and it is smooth, but the line is too broad.

 

Now I understand that you want SEF.... But this wide, from your SF, is quite strange, really strange. But this is not typical... ? It looks more like SM.

 

In all the pictures I have seen, all reviews, the line from SF is not so thick...

Is it possible that Pilot badly named the nib? I'm beginning to wonder...

 

 

I love my Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with FA nib.

It is smooth and easy to write with and gives a nice line variation with out much pressure.

(Bought via ebay france.)

 

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It looks really nice. And it is also wet, isn't?

Edited November 1, 2017 by Nikaa

[Nikaa]

 

 

 

 

(...) it is not a nib for everyone though (...) i edited my previous message and talked about it. i did not use micromesh at all.

when i first got the nib it felt scratchy to me but i realized that it is not. You just need to write with less pressure (when normal writing) and you should be ok. The nib is capable of such writing. it can write without applying any pressure at all

 

 

Thank you for sharing your experience Yes, I'm aware that this nib is not for everybody. Ussually I hold my pen at a strange angle, a larger angle - more vertically.... I do not know if my way of holding the pen will affect Falcon's writing somehow.

 

 

Looking at the comparison with platinum I think I prefer SF....

But I'm afraid I will not get a thick and wet line in SF like in Amanda's pen....

Edited November 1, 2017 by Nikaa

[Bo Bo Olson]

Fountain pens do not work well when held at or before the big index knuckle. In order to get a full puddle of ink for the nib to float on, it should be held behind the big index knuckle at 45-40 or even 35 degrees in the pit of the web of the thumb.

 

Held before the knuckle, you need modern nibs from Pelikan which are fat and blobby just for that reason....stiffer too...again for that reason. You get less ink flow and make little grand canyons in your paper.

Nibs tend to be scratchy and bend out of shape when held too high....unless a stiffer fat and blobby double ball nib.

 

Don't even think of vintage semi-flex nibs in the only German nib you can use will be the K nibs, KM or KF....kugal (ball) with thicker tip and a blob of 'iridium' on the top of the nib....made for them that liked to hold a fountain pen like a pencil....Ball points were not yet IN. The bottom is still flat and stubbish....but you don't use the bottom of the nib!

 

The cut out Pilot will be a waste of money, with the way you hold your fountain pen. IMO

Perhaps if one only prints...then a made for printing not cut out Japanese nib will work.

Edited November 1, 2017 by Bo Bo Olson

[Nikaa]

Oh.....

 

Maybe I wrote this wrong, and we have a little misunderstanding Sorry for my english.

 

When I look how I hold and how other people (not everybody) holds , when fountain pen almost lies (the angle is small), my way is more vertical but not like holding a pencil. And maybe not that 'vertical' as you think I could not write with fountain pens if I hold them so vertical And of course I do not hold every pen like that. Some of them I hold at bigger angles, others at smaller.

I can use and have pleasure of using fountain pens of course.

 

One of my friends notices once that I hold (sometimes) a pen like the Japanese... Whatever it means

 

And... I do not like K nibs... not really. I prefer using nibs with flex... But I usually write without pressure.

 

 

I love writing with Pelikan gold EF, Sailor H-M and also Wahl Eversharp Flexible nib, Omas 14k nib with flex and 18k without flex, Pilot VP, Rembrandt F or Lamy (EF, F, M, stub). And using them for years (!) and I never destroyed them !

And.... I do not like blobby and fat, double ball nib. I hate them and I can't write with them

Edited November 1, 2017 by Nikaa

[Nikaa]

Finally I decided on SF, and I'm happy. I picked up yesterday and now in the testing phase.

SF was a good choice. SEF would probably be too anemic...

I like the nib. It's great and not scratching at all!

 

Edited December 3, 2017 by Nikaa

[friedrichwild]

Great! Hope you enjoy it!!!

[Nikaa]

Yes, with every minute I like it more and more!

Edited December 3, 2017 by Nikaa