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Monteverde Monza = Jinhao 992 (First Impressions)


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#81 DasKaltblut

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 01:56

Yes, but primarily because of the included ink. The price alone for the pen is not a beginner's deal (why should beginners pay dozens of dollars?) And especially since many folk have reported issues with Duragraph QC.


Indeed. With the ink was my whole point. Also, some beginners start out with pens a lot more expensive than that.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 03:11

Indeed. With the ink was my whole point. Also, some beginners start out with pens a lot more expensive than that.

sure, some drivers start with Mercedes. But they're not "beginner cars." 



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Posted 18 December 2017 - 05:54

Indeed. With the ink was my whole point. Also, some beginners start out with pens a lot more expensive than that.

 

They shouldn't. Jumping into a mont blanc is a stupid, stupid idea.



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Posted 18 December 2017 - 13:06

To me the slipping out of the nib is a telltale sign of a 992 that has had the nib replaced. Although the Jinhao nibs fit perfectly in the 992, they are a tad thicker than other nibs so most other nibs you put in the 992 will either fall out or be slightly loose but usable. I'm glad I never bought any Monteverde pens, but boy does that Fireopal ink look tempting!

lol do this.Order the ink from Goulet Pens and then order the 992 from aliexpress or ebay. Works out to be 16 dollars still. And if you are getting a core color and located in the us, order the ink from staples online and it's only 13.30. Add in a buck for the pen, works out to be about 15 dollars?

#85 DasKaltblut

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 16:10

sure, some drivers start with Mercedes. But they're not "beginner cars." 


I just have to say that if we're going to go with the metaphor, Duragraphs are hardly the Mercedes of the pen world.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 22:05

I just have to say that if we're going to go with the metaphor, Duragraphs are hardly the Mercedes of the pen world.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:07

I feel like this entire situation could have been avoided with a slight shift in marketing. Rather than sell the pen and offer free ink, I think they should have just sold a "bundle" so it's more like you're buying some nice ink and it happens to come with a pen. Kind of like Noodler's with their large bottles and the free Charlie pen. 

 

If it feels like a free pen, then it's ok that it's a cheap 992. Longtime fountain pen hobbyists would buy the ink and toss the pen in a drawer. Newcomers to the hobby would appreciate a nice ink & pen bundle to get started (before realizing the Monza is cheap and it's time to upgrade).

lol they should have done that considering the jinghao flagship store is selling the 992 for 1 buck 1.60/1.50. Wowzas, you're getting the pen on sale for 50 cents cheaper after factoring in the price of the ink.



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 16:38

I just have to say that if we're going to go with the metaphor, Duragraphs are hardly the Mercedes of the pen world.

in quality, for sure not

 

but for someone of low income, they are too expensive as a "beginner" pen



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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:45

in quality, for sure not

 

but for someone of low income, they are too expensive as a "beginner" pen

right now the ink that is being bundled is 90 mls along with a discounted jinghao 992 by about 60 or 50 cents from msrp.
 Not too expensive, considering locally a 30 ml bottle of monteverde ink is being sold for 9.50 and a bottle of parker quink is being sold for 11.00 which is 60 ml bottle. If you look up the prices on goulet pens you'll find that the 90 ml ink is being sold for 15 dollars and the pen that is being bundled is only a buck.



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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:37

I had one of the newer 992's and the barrel still cracked. Guess Im just unlucky. Fixed it with some method from youtube. Was simple



#91 TruthPil

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:42

I had one of the newer 992's and the barrel still cracked. Guess Im just unlucky. Fixed it with some method from youtube. Was simple


That's disheartening that even the new 992s are cracking.

What model did you get? Demonstrator or opaque? Chrome or gold trim?

Where on the barrel did it crack?

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#92 Honeybadgers

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 05:08

I'm curious to know if the opaque models aren't cracking. I still would like a demonstrator (I like them as eyedroppers, aesthetically) but it'd be USABLE if it didn't crack.








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