Psf On Lever Instead Of Ideal

[siamackz]

Hi,

 

I just bought this 94, but its lever does not have the "IDEAL" logo, instead if has "PSF" written. Is this lever not original to the pen i.e. is it a replacement? Thanks!

 

[penmanila]

PSF simply means "pocket self-filling" which you find on a lot of early Watermans. If you Google "Waterman PSF" you'll find lots of examples.

[gregamckinney]

PSF simply means "pocket self-filling" which you find on a lot of early Watermans. If you Google "Waterman PSF" you'll find lots of examples.

 

But not, IME, PSF on the lever. I don't recall ever seeing that.

 

greg

[penmanila]

^there could be an answer here:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/281463-psf-stamped-on-on-the-lever-not-ideal/

[siamackz]

 

But not, IME, PSF on the lever. I don't recall ever seeing that.

 

greg

Thats what I thought, is it a generic replacement lever?

[siamackz]

^there could be an answer here:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/281463-psf-stamped-on-on-the-lever-not-ideal/

Thanks, seen this, but theyve established the pen is not a Watermans I think

[gregamckinney]

Thats what I thought, is it a generic replacement lever?

 

"Generic" I don't know, but it seems to have cropped up on at least three different pens. (Also, what would 'generic' mean. I doubt anyone just made levers to be sold as parts.)

 

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I will jump in, but my money is on the idea that it was a maker that marked their pens that way, and their levers just happened to find their way onto other pens as replacements.

 

I can see it as a good choice on a Waterman (assuming you didn't have the correct lever) due to the similarity of the baseball/ globe iconography.

 

Best Regards, greg

[siamackz]

 

"Generic" I don't know, but it seems to have cropped up on at least three different pens. (Also, what would 'generic' mean. I doubt anyone just made levers to be sold as parts.)

 

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I will jump in, but my money is on the idea that it was a maker that marked their pens that way, and their levers just happened to find their way onto other pens as replacements.

 

I can see it as a good choice on a Waterman (assuming you didn't have the correct lever) due to the similarity of the baseball/ globe iconography.

 

Best Regards, greg

Hmm.. Thanks Greg. I went through Lehrer's book on Waterman's too, and I have never seen such a logo on any of the levers. Its a good replacement, but a replacement indeed I think!

[Z-Tab]

I believe that it is a French company that made Waterman-style pens. Not a Waterman, but quite similar and deliberately so.

 

Is your pen marked 94 on the base? Are there Waterman imprints elsewhere on the pen? If the body is clearly marked Waterman, then that is definitely a replacement lever box.

Edited October 1, 2017 by Z-Tab

[siamackz]

I believe that it is a French company that made Waterman-style pens. Not a Waterman, but quite similar and deliberately so.

 

Is your pen marked 94 on the base? Are there Waterman imprints elsewhere on the pen? If the body is clearly marked Waterman, then that is definitely a replacement lever box.

Yup, its a 94 Watermans. No doubt about the pen. I think youre right about the replacement lever. Written to the dealer about it for a partial refund so that I can source and replace with original. Thanks