New Pelikan 805 Ocean Swirl

[lterry]

This is looking like it will be my first Pelikan FP

[sirgilbert357]

PenChalet.com has a pretty good pic of it on their site:

 

https://www.penchalet.com/fine_pens/fountain_pens/pelikan_M805_ocean_swirl_fountain_pen.html

 

[sirgilbert357]

Another good one from Nibsmith.com:

 

https://nibsmith.com/product/pelikan-m805-ocean-swirl-fountain-pen/

 

 

[sirgilbert357]

The shots above appear to be more consistent than the first ones we were seeing. Hopefully this is closer to the real life color. If so, I may keep my order after all. Best price I've seen so far is USD 461.00 shipped. It's not against the rules to talk about pricing and help each other find good deals is it? If not, could everyone post up what prices you guys are seeing?

Edited October 12, 2017 by sirgilbert357

[whichwatch]

I paid $468 in the US from a US dealer which includes free nib tuning or grinding. I'm getting an Architect Point so I consider that a bargain.

[sirgilbert357]

I paid $468 in the US from a US dealer which includes free nib tuning or grinding. I'm getting an Architect Point so I consider that a bargain.

 

At that price, with a nib mod, I agree -- quite a bargain. And within the US!

[Lam1]

 

 

Try the Smoky Quartz in an EF or needlepoint on smooth creme paper... Looks just like a letter great grandpa might have written

 

(I can't write with fat subs and OBBB's ALL the time )

 

Didn't they invent the OBB exactly for those rare occasions!!

And I'm a bit confused, cause I never heard of an EF nib... does it stand for extra-"fat"?

 

I'll try the combination Smoky Quartz/Pilot 823 F (finest nib I have. Must be gathering dust somewhere...)/Rhodia R. Thanks for the hint!

[GutSchrift]

The latest from Pelikan's official instagram is video of the pen in person. It is way more interesting and fantastic than even the photos hinted at!

[Driften]

The latest from Pelikan's official instagram is video of the pen in person. It is way more interesting and fantastic than even the photos hinted at!

 

Thanks for that... the pen does look stunning in the video.

[Mulrich]

The latest from Pelikan's official instagram is video of the pen in person. It is way more interesting and fantastic than even the photos hinted at!

 

Holy smokes, the video pen looks amazing. I was indifferent about the pen based on the marketing pictures but the video may tip the scales towards purchasing. I may still wait for real world reviews but I'm actually considering buying now.

[sargetalon]

I find it funny that this video clearly shows the M805 living up to the hype whereas the M605 photos Ive seen are just the opposite. Cant wait to get my Ocean Swirl.

[sirgilbert357]

After watching the video, Im wondering if this isnt actually acrylic. It doesnt look like resin. Ive thought for awhile my Renaissance Brown is actually acrylic, but Im not sure what its classified as by Pelikan.

Edited October 20, 2017 by sirgilbert357

[sargetalon]

After watching the video, Im wondering if this isnt actually acrylic. It doesnt look like resin. Ive thought for awhile my Renaissance Brown is actually acrylic, but Im not sure what its classified as by Pelikan.

Pelikans literature states that the Rennaisance Brown was made from a brown acrylic material. I assume the same holds true for the Ocean Swirl (minus the brown).

Edited October 20, 2017 by sargetalon

[sirgilbert357]

Pelikans literature states that the Rennaisance Brown was made from a brown acrylic material. I assume the same holds true for the Ocean Swirl (minus the brown).

 

Oh, OK, well I thought so, but I feel like I have seen it described as resin on some seller's sites.

 

And I agree with you on the Ocean Swirl...that kind of depth is usually achieved with acrylic.

[whichwatch]

After watching the video, Im wondering if this isnt actually acrylic. It doesnt look like resin. Ive thought for awhile my Renaissance Brown is actually acrylic, but Im not sure what its classified as by Pelikan.

 

 

I thought that acrylic IS a resin, so all acrylics are resins, though not all resins are acrylic. Is there a different distinction?

[sirgilbert357]

 

 

I thought that acrylic IS a resin, so all acrylics are resins, though not all resins are acrylic. Is there a different distinction?

 

There are probably great write ups out there somewhere that do a way better job than what I can express, but I'll give it a go:

 

In the fountain pen world, there are usually distinctions made, yes. Not sure about other fields where plastics are used. But "resin" can be anything that is injection molded and very cheap (Pilot 78g for example) on up to the nicer Mont Blancs and Pelikans, which are likely still injection molded, but the seams have been polished out. Resin is a softer plastic and usually takes a beautiful polish, but is also easily scuffed and scratched.

 

"Acrylic" is usually a harder, more scratch resistant material that comes in bar stock and must be turned on a lathe to shape the pen. This is what Franklin Christoph and Edison Pens use to make their pens. It also reminds me of Lucite, which is what the early Parker 51's were made of. Maybe it is very similar or a descendant of it, I'm not sure. I have a Lucite P-51 and the material is noticeably different than the plastic of my Pilot 78g or even the resin cap of my Pelikan M405. It feels stronger, slightly different to the touch and has a different sound when tapped. As has previously been noted, you can get a lot of depth with the colors and shapes with acrylic that you just can't always do with resin.

[Calabria]

I paid $468 in the US from a US dealer which includes free nib tuning or grinding. I'm getting an Architect Point so I consider that a bargain.

Can you share who gives free nib grinding? And does anybody have a link for the video?

Thanks,

Derek

[Lam1]

The video can be found here

 

[ian1964]

 

There are probably great write ups out there somewhere that do a way better job than what I can express, but I'll give it a go:

 

In the fountain pen world, there are usually distinctions made, yes. Not sure about other fields where plastics are used. But "resin" can be anything that is injection molded and very cheap (Pilot 78g for example) on up to the nicer Mont Blancs and Pelikans, which are likely still injection molded, but the seams have been polished out. Resin is a softer plastic and usually takes a beautiful polish, but is also easily scuffed and scratched.

 

"Acrylic" is usually a harder, more scratch resistant material that comes in bar stock and must be turned on a lathe to shape the pen. This is what Franklin Christoph and Edison Pens use to make their pens. It also reminds me of Lucite, which is what the early Parker 51's were made of. Maybe it is very similar or a descendant of it, I'm not sure. I have a Lucite P-51 and the material is noticeably different than the plastic of my Pilot 78g or even the resin cap of my Pelikan M405. It feels stronger, slightly different to the touch and has a different sound when tapped. As has previously been noted, you can get a lot of depth with the colors and shapes with acrylic that you just can't always do with resin.

Great explanation...thank you for writing this,

[whichwatch]

Can you share who gives free nib grinding? And does anybody have a link for the video?

Thanks,

Derek

 

PM sent with info on nib grinding