What Would Be A Nice Representation Of Geha?

[Dickkooty2]

Can you guide me to maybe 4=5 models that indicate design from 30's through 60's (when ever they were bought)?

 

I have a goldschwinge with that great nib, an adult schulfiller in black and gold, and a kids schullfiller in red and metal, I like the war for the school pen market between Geha and Pelikano.

 

I am not a real collector but would just like to have some representative user level models. •

 

Thanks!

 

Dick

 

• What I do is back up the models with related merchandising and collateral materials to give the sense of a moment in time.

 

Here is an interesting box I have coming ...

 

 

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[patta]

Dick, there is not very much information available about GEHA. The best source I do know of is this one: http://www.ruettinger-web.de/geha-startseite.html. Unfortunately, it is in German, but the numbers are multilingual.

 

patta

[Bo Bo Olson]

1950 was the start of pen making. I don't have any of the '50's pens....well one a '58-59 Geha 790 with three real rings.

Sorry about the hunt and peck but Imure and FPN don't seem to get along.

 

Geha 790 seems to come only in Black and Gold....I have three counting the real three ring one. (Two semi-flex and one maxi-semi-flex.)

First is the '58-59....and it polished up much better. I figure in I take bad pictures, if I bought the pen, I bought the picture.

Second picture is to show what top the pen must have.....can be found for E30 with luck, with out E60+.

There is a 705 more the 140's level, with only two rings. The school pens, and I have two slightly different have no rings, just a serial number and nibs that won't fit the 790/760.

Third picture is to show the torpedo shape of that era....Swan, 400nn, 146/9.

https://imgur.com/oWb4qI2

https://imgur.com/WotaRYp

https://imgur.com/FcMRU9x

Geha 760, rolled gold cap.....................I have a later 760 when it was no longer the flag ship...replaced by the 725. Black top, grey stripped but no gold ring at the piston. The gold top one is rare. I came in third!!!!

https://imgur.com/QG4SRYW

 

rare 780...in I didn't even know there any until half a year ago. Stripped top and bottom. Some lucky SxB has three or four of them!!!!!

https://imgur.com/Qcm6Uah

 

Two posters I respect said the Geha semi/maxi-semi-flex nibs are a tad better than Pelikan's of the same era. I tested my Geha's and Pelikan's and it was so.

 

One of the most classy pens ever made....I keep forgetting to add the clip, two slightly curved lines give the clip class to the max...has the inlaid nib too. Made to '72. There is also a 735 with a rolled gold cap.

The 725 can be had from E50....a slight problem ...it can develop a micro crack in the cap. Hard to see and does nothing. Mine came with out....and developed it a week later. It is not a deal breaker....really. I don't even notice it....micro.

The second picture is with permission of Penboard.de.

https://imgur.com/ogInSF2

https://imgur.com/fqsYWy5

 

Back in the When, the 725 normally went for E100, then during the World Cup in South Africa, in everyone that had money were there or lost it, betting on England I got one from England for 'only' E50.

 

The next week Murphy tapped me on my shoulder and showed me two that went for E25.

 

In they too come only in black and gold I only have one. Occasionally, front sections do come up in German Ebay....so you can get an F or an M or what ever.

 

All Gehas have a reserve tank. Run out of ink, turn it over and push the little button on the feed up, and you get another page or two.

You have to fiddle harder in case a 790/760 need greasing. Mine are still good to go. So I've not had to find something that is bendable for a half rice corn of silicon grease, that one can do with a screw out nibbed Pelikan.

The nibs do screw out on Geha's.

 

By the way, I have that little Geha box also.

Edited September 27, 2017 by Bo Bo Olson

[Dickkooty2]

Bobo!

 

Thank you very much for the tutorial on Geha. The knowledge on this blog is fantastic.

 

Patta!

 

Thank you for the reference. I can struggle through with my own fading memory and google translate.

 

The two of you have started me on my sorting and identifying what i have. Hopefully, I will be able to get a small representative grouping together.

 

I know typewriters are not a blog interest except perhaps as writing instruments. I have been drawn to mid-century portables for their design and have added to my clutter with four Hermes Baby models and an Olivetti Lettera 22. I have the Olivetti Valentine, the Monpti, and the Groma Kolibri in my bucket list. I have great ads for the Hermes and the Lettera 22.

 

I am afraid I am not a collector, but simply an accumulator of particular items for their design and the collateral materials for the sense of the time.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Than god computers have spell check.

Though I loved the IBM Selectric 2 I think it was, with the daisy-wheel. Now that was a keyboard.

 

I did take a class in HS on a manual back when color TV was still not for working folks.

At home we had a heavy duty Underwood at home. It was heavy...earthquake stable.

 

I have no idea what cheap plastic cased portable electric typewriter I took to collage in '72, but it beat the hell out of pounding on that Underwood.

[Gasquolet]

Sorry I missed this when it was current, I've been off FPN for a couple of months.

 

Bo Bo ans Patta have got it covered really. I 'found' Geha with the 50s/ 60s pens and really got into them a few years ago. I have a few. Actually I have one of almost every nib variation they fitted to those pens and also having a Pelikan 140 and couple of 400s, I would also say that while the Pel nibs are excellent, and bigger, a good Geha one is better.

 

I'd look for 760 or 790 models with EF nib for expressive writing with lovely line variation but any grade above F including obliques will have a natural stubbishness that adds a lot of flair and is not typical of the character that modern stubs give I've found. So add to that an M / B or OM/ OB.

Then there are the striated and marbled celluloids, these are generally grey and pale green and are lovely (brown, bright green and red are out there as per Bo Bo's pictures but rarer), quite different to the Pel pattern which is more regular. The celluloids generally seem to be good and plenty have survived perfectly but I have seen shrinkage on a couple, enough to affect piston operation.

I've made no effort to 'collect' the different finishes, you could spend a lot of money doing that. I'm more interested in the nibs.

 

Don't write off the steel nibs on the bigger pens, I've found they have even better elasticity than the 14k nibs and are generally still in great condition. The smaller nibs on the 600 series and 700/ 705 pens (typically schulfüller) are not quite as characterful writers and also normally kugel tipped which makes them write more like modern pens.

 

With the easy removal of the nibs I've found you are as well to ignore the nib designation where it is stamped on the piston knob, though this is often not present, you are better to find out what is marked on the underside of the feed as this is much more reliable an indication of the nib and more often than not is present on these models

 

If you can get a photo of the nib tipping on these pens but are not sure what you are looking at I can identify quite reliably - feel free to contact me.

 

Some of the period Geha advertising is excellent. I should try to get some to add to my 50s/ 60s VW advertising collection.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Gasquolet

[Bo Bo Olson]

Gasquolet, I am always glad for more info on Geha pens, like someone has a collection of 780's that I didn't even know existed until early this year....??? late last year.

I was impressed also with the Geha steel nib on a 790....as I am on the Osmia pens in steel.

 

Of the six Geha School pen nibs I had had, were regular flex. Then I sent someone five keeping the 'best' for a Geha school pen he sent me............ The nib didn't fit.

We sent the nibs across the channel and the new nib fit..............there are two sizes of Geha School pen.............and the nib I got is a maxi-semi-flex..........which I did not expect on a School Pen.....and neither of the School pen nibs fit a 790/760.

[Gasquolet]

 

Of the six Geha School pen nibs I had had, were regular flex. Then I sent someone five keeping the 'best' for a Geha school pen he sent me............ The nib didn't fit.

We sent the nibs across the channel and the new nib fit..............there are two sizes of Geha School pen.............and the nib I got is a maxi-semi-flex..........which I did not expect on a School Pen.....and neither of the School pen nibs fit a 790/760.

 

Bo Bo, intersting, what nib type is it? Does your school pen nib screw out with a collar?

 

The 760/ 790 nibs all screw out like the Pel nibs as you know, these have an 8mm diameter collar. The 720 nib also has an 8mm collar but the nib is slightly bigger.

 

Most of the school pens are 600 series, these take a nib with a 6.8mm diameter collar though most often I find the nib and feed pull out and the collar stays in the section. On the 701 series school pens (longer but still thin, no flare at the end of the section) I don't think the nib is in a collar, the nib and feed are friction fit and the whole section unscrews from the barrel below the cap threads.

Of course sometimes the nib and feed come free from the collar in the pen so you have to take that into account too.

 

Is it a 14k nib? I only have one small, school pen size 14k nib in a 605 (two step clip ring) on OM and it's definitely more flexy than the FK nibs in the school pens.

 

I do wish I could speak German. I know I'd find out more if I could search the German pen sites.

[Bo Bo Olson]

The two school nibs screw out.

The maxi nib is steel.

 

 

All that was new to me.

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The 760/ 790 nibs all screw out like the Pel nibs as you know, these have an 8mm diameter collar. The 720 nib also has an 8mm collar but the nib is slightly bigger.

 

Most of the school pens are 600 series, these take a nib with a 6.8mm diameter collar though most often I find the nib and feed pull out and the collar stays in the section. (Both of mine unscrew.) On the 701 series school pens (longer but still thin, no flare at the end of the section) I don't think the nib is in a collar, the nib and feed are friction fit and the whole section unscrews from the barrel below the cap threads.

Of course sometimes the nib and feed come free from the collar in the pen so you have to take that into account too."""

I don't know if the two piston school pens I have are the 600 or if one is the 701...in the maxi- is longer and thinner.

[Gasquolet]

Bo bo and Dick,

 

Here are a little selection hastily put together of the Geha catalogue from the late 50s to early 60s. This style of Geha, despite being older seems to have sold well and lasted because they are probably more plentiful than the 70s and 80s pens now.

 

I have broken one down and put another complete next to it to try to illustrate the differences. Of course, nib differences and finishes are not represented but there is one coloured celluloid model in there.

 

 

From right to left:

 

Geha 600 schulfüller with medium kugel nib - broken down

 

Geha 600 schulfüller with fine fine pfannen nib

 

Geha 701 (not with schulfüller on cap, I thought I had one though) with fine kugel nib

 

Geha 701 with green celluloid barrel with fine durchscheibe nib (Pallaig)

 

Geha 760 with three cap rings and extra fine 14k nib.

 

Geha 790 with different style 3 cap rings and broad 14k nib.

 

Geha 720 with extra fine 14k nib.

 

You can see the 600 and the 760/ 790 are about the same length but the 600 is thinner and the nib smaller.

[Bo Bo Olson]

WoW!!!!!

[JasonF2]

Just curious, can you provide any info on the 790 with three separate cap rings versus the versions with the stepped cap rings? I'm curious if that was a difference based on the years it was made, or something else? I usually see the stepped cap rings, but sometimes have seen 790 with three separate rings and wonder if it means anything specific. Thanks

 

Bo bo and Dick,

 

Here are a little selection hastily put together of the Geha catalogue from the late 50s to early 60s. This style of Geha, despite being older seems to have sold well and lasted because they are probably more plentiful than the 70s and 80s pens now.

 

I have broken one down and put another complete next to it to try to illustrate the differences. Of course, nib differences and finishes are not represented but there is one coloured celluloid model in there.

 

 

 

From right to left:

 

Geha 600 schulfüller with medium kugel nib - broken down

 

Geha 600 schulfüller with fine fine pfannen nib

 

Geha 701 (not with schulfüller on cap, I thought I had one though) with fine kugel nib

 

Geha 701 with green celluloid barrel with fine durchscheibe nib (Pallaig)

 

Geha 760 with three cap rings and extra fine 14k nib.

 

Geha 790 with different style 3 cap rings and broad 14k nib.

 

Geha 720 with extra fine 14k nib.

 

You can see the 600 and the 760/ 790 are about the same length but the 600 is thinner and the nib smaller.