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#1 goodpens

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 22:28

I truly believe that this "pay it forum" thread works. Paying it forward reaps rewards in life, in general, and it works here regarding pen-related goodies.

My most recent experience: after I offered up a PIF package and mailed it last week, I received two awesome FP-related gifts. One was a deluxe bottle of ink (thoughtfully in my favorite color group) from my music teacher. Another was a surprise package of 4 sample vials of inks I've never tried, courtesy of a member of this site who I'd been chatting with.

Once upon a time, this PIF forum was very active. It has slowed down some and I think it'd be great to see more activity. If you have pen and ink goodies getting dusty around your place, please consider offering them up! They will make someone else very happy, won't go to waste, will help you streamline your collection (and give you a good excuse to buy more, if you're looking for justification), and you'll be blessed with good stationery karma!

(I promise I am not suggesting this so that I can request anything that may be offered. To be clear on that, I won't request or enter any PIFs for the remainder of 2017.)

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to participate in this PIF challenge.

Edited by goodpens, 13 September 2017 - 12:07.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:08

That's a nice thought. I've been the recipient and the piffer.  I really enjoy the experience both ways.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:47

That's a nice thought. I've been the recipient and the piffer.  I really enjoy the experience both ways.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 17:19

Same goes for me, although I must I must admit tapering off a little - it's getting more difficult getting to the post office (both sending and receiving) - I seem to have less time somehow...

But I do look at stuff being offered, and enjoy the feeling that the PiF tradition is alive and well on FPN.


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#5 inkstainedruth

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 18:32

A couple of months ago, my local pen club had an ink swap.  I wasn't able to get rid of as many of the sample vials as I had hoped, but I did give away a few -- and only picked up one new one for me.  Then last month, after I'd found a Cross Verve for a buck at a thrift store, one of the other members gave me a spare converter he had (once someone looked up the model to see what it was and which style converter it took) and wouldn't take payment because he'd gotten some of the samples from me the month before.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:34

I have some more things that I could give away as PIFs, but right now my schedule is very busy and I haven't had time to devote to PIFing.  But I will be back with more PIFs before too long.



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:52

I'm gonna put up a custom fountain pen I got a few years ago...beautiful pen but I don't use it and I know someone else will. Thanks for reminding me!

#8 goodpens

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 03:02

Yay! Thanks, all.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 16:27

It has been really nice to see the PIF offers that have been popping up in this thread. Thanks, all! I hope that there are many happy recipients. 



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 07:35

In these stressy times of money and economics this generousity touches me...

 

If I have anything to offer, I will certainly do.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 13:36

Nice post. Thanks.
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Posted 15 October 2017 - 15:51

The Pay it Forward concept is wonderful

 

Do a good deed for others who are in need without asking for anything in return.

 

In a perfect world the recipient should be instructed - or at least their conscience should remind them - to pay it forward to someone else in need.

 

I feel a sadness when I see selfish persons who have all that they need who then beg to be included with PIFs but are never the ones to start a PIF themselves.

 

Human nature I suppose, but disappointing.

 

Even worse when they excuse their behaviour on the basis that if the PIF is freely given then they should freely take it.


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How many people does it take to comment on a question on FPN? One to give advice and make suggestions. Another one to repeat everything that the first poster has said. Fourteen to share their own experiences of their pens and comment on how the original advice was flawed. Seven who just want to increase their post count. One to say that they have no regrets about doing anything and people should follow their example. Another to say that if there is anything wrong with the pen it is just down to using Diamine Shimmer ink. Six to argue over whether its a worth doing anything with it and the OP should just throw it away and buy their Parker 51. One to ignore who uses 'I' four times in each post. Another six to condemn all of the above as being  stupid and anyway they would rather be on FP Geeks. One to say that the pen is cheaper where they live. Five people to post pics of their own pens. One to say that if the OP had Faith then the pen would work - and gets banned very quickly. Finally, one to close down the thread because it has lost its way.
 


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 06:32

Same goes for me, although I must I must admit tapering off a little - it's getting more difficult getting to the post office (both sending and receiving) - I seem to have less time somehow...

But I do look at stuff being offered, and enjoy the feeling that the PiF tradition is alive and well on FPN.

True. Minus the mailing ordeals and time constraint ( particularly packaging for me ), I could perhaps do a small bit of my own.

 

It feels so satisfying to give away.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 16:22

Hi, 

 

I have a few things to give away. Can you explain how PIFing works ? 

 

thanks,

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 16:44

Hi, 
 
I have a few things to give away. Can you explain how PIFing works ? 
 
thanks,
Dinuraj


Yay! Thanks!

Basically, just add a new topic in this forum. (Itll be reviewed by a moderator before being posted.)

Explain what you have to offer and how someone can request it. Some people keep it simple (e.g. giving it to the first person to respond) and others make it a little bit more of a playful game, such as giving it to the first person with the right answer or with a random number drawing of all entrants.

Whatever you are offering must be a gift; you cant ask for payment. (Asking for reimbursement of actual shipping fees is ok and sometimes done.) If you browse through recent offers, youll get a sense of different ways people have done this.

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 19:44

Additionally, Dinuraj, as I always have understood, there is no reciprocity involved (no bartering, so to say). But what goes round, comes round eventually:

 

 

Once, a monk asked: “What is the meaning of PIF?”

 

Lao Tze answered: “If everyone who gets his back scratched, scratches two other backs, we’ll soon all have our backs scratched.”

 



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 21:25

The Pay it Forward concept is wonderful

 

Do a good deed for others who are in need without asking for anything in return.

 

In a perfect world the recipient should be instructed - or at least their conscience should remind them - to pay it forward to someone else in need.

 

I feel a sadness when I see selfish persons who have all that they need who then beg to be included with PIFs but are never the ones to start a PIF themselves.

 

Human nature I suppose, but disappointing.

 

Even worse when they excuse their behaviour on the basis that if the PIF is freely given then they should freely take it.

 

I used to (with DirecTV) get a channel that was sort of a world-vision version of PBS, and I used to like a program where some crazy lady who was big into metaphysical stuff would invite interesting people over for lunch and conversation (someone once told her that "When you first came to Big Sur, you were a debutante -- now, you're a shamaness!" B)

So, one time, I heard a story from some guy who was in some Latin American country.  A poor child came to the door, begging, and the guy asked his son to give the poor child a toy.  So his son got some random old toy out and his father said "No -- give him your BEST toy!"  And the son did that and afterwards came running back in and said to his father "That was GREAT!  Can we do that AGAIN?"  

I always thought that was such a lovely story, but had forgotten all about it till just now.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 23:20

 It helps some of out wonderfully.

 

 Especially us students.

 

 Some people want to get into the hobby, but for whatever reason they can't.

 

 Things like this really do jump start the hobby for many people.



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Posted 01 January 2018 - 00:28

It really is powerful. I have been on both ends, although it has been a while since was on the giving end. I will have ro come up with something in the new year.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 00:55

I really enjoy giving away the stuff that I find doesn't suit me or I'm no longer using. Its satisfying knowing that others are using what I no longer am and receiving enjoyment from it :D 







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