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Anyone recommend any good short hand tips/courses they have used or found?

 

 

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It's a bit of a lost art since the advent of the tape recorder. My mother knew the Pitman system, but when she wanted to refresh her skills twenty years later, she couldn't find anyone that taught it. She ended up learning the Gregg system instead. This was in the Seventies so I have no idea what they teach now but I recollect that one system depended on pencils (the Pitman, I vaguely recall) and the Gregg system was pen-based.

This isn't much, but there may be online courses.

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On a related note Esterbrook made a nib that was "approved" for Gregg shorthand, the 1555, described as a firm, medium.

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I never learned shorthand, but practiced some of the forms, and incorporated the more common ones into my note taking in college. Mostly, through neglect, that knowledge is gone.

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On a related note Esterbrook made a nib that was "approved" for Gregg shorthand, the 1555, described as a firm, medium.

 

They also made a top-line equivalent, the 9555 (the 1555 is a student grade nib; the 1000x nibs are just folded over and don't have any tipping on them). If you look on the charts they put out, both are listed as being "shorthand" nibs.

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It depends on the shorthand. I've used Teeline, and just practice with multiple books - Teeline Gold and Teeline Shorthand Made Simple. For Gregg or Pitman you would have to decide which version to use... there's many variants of Gregg, and some of Pitman. Pitman requires, I believe a flexible nib so keep that in mind.

 

I wouldn't say I'm exactly speedy and it's still a pain to read but it suffices for making my scrawl private. I find an extra fine/needlepoint works best for Teeline, especially because I have small handwriting anyway, and the ability to write a subtle notation matters much more in shorthand compared to regular cursive/print which is much more forgiving of a mistake.

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On a related note Esterbrook made a nib that was "approved" for Gregg shorthand, the 1555, described as a firm, medium.

Just checked....Esterbrook.net says the 1555 is a firm fine shorthand... as did a chart image I found. Plus I have two of them.

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Both Gregg Shorthand and Gregg Notehand were taught in my high school. Shorthand was more for business and notehand was for the college bound.

 

I wish I had taken notehand but I took neither.

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I know fragments and little array of strokes from it. Gregg Shorthand was also taught in our high school.

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Hi,

 

Anyone recommend any good short hand tips/courses they have used or found?

If you are talking about the real shorthand that is Pitmans I did Pitmans for about two years and was able to

write legible shorthand of 130 wpm when only 15 years of age Trust Me, Oneill

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If you are talking about the real shorthand that is Pitmans I did Pitmans for about two years and was able to

write legible shorthand of 130 wpm when only 15 years of age Trust Me, Oneill

I would recommend Pitmans shorthand as being the easiest kind to tackle I can still do about 90 words per minute and read it back without any problems.The fountain pen I used I think was a

Pelikan Steno which was especially

made for speed writing.Trust Me,Oneill

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