Need Help With Cartridge Size

[aych001]

I have a Pilot MR fountain pen bought from Amazon India. Will the Waterman Long Standard International Cartridge fit in it?

[BRBA]

I may be wrong but I think Pilot pens use propriety cartridges.

[Chrissy]

I may be wrong but I think Pilot pens use propriety cartridges.

 

You're not wrong and they do. A Waterman long cartridge won't fit into a Pilot pen.

 

A Standard International sized cartridge isn't the same as a Waterman long cartridge. It's a short cartridge.

[BT_Summers]

I have heard of some problems when people used a Waterman cartridge on other makes of pen with the nipple splitting. There also seems to be some variable sizes, pens that you would have thought might take an international cartridge, just dont.

 

For example my brother got one of the fake Lamys from the recent Amazon debacle and the supplied cartridges and the converter dont fit anything else, you would have thought that they might.

[aych001]

Guys I appreciate your replies but I would like to add some things Iearnt by searching the Web.

 

Firstly, the website of Cult Pens states "There are two versions of the international standard cartridge - 'short' 38mm cartridges and 'long' 73mm cartridges. Most pens will accept either, and many are designed to accommodate two short cartridges - one in use and one spare in the barrel. This should ensure that you don't run out of ink unexpectedly. A few very compact fountain pens can only use the short version."

 

Secondly, the cartridge in question (https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00LOETFS4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_PtePzbXX9N9CK) has 'Large Size Standard Cartridge' mentioned on the pack.

 

Thirdly, the product page on Cult Pens again states that the Pilot MR accepts International Standard cartridges. After some more research I found out that the Pilot Metropolitan (US variant) only accepts proprietary cartridges.

[cattar]

Pilot makes two versions of the Metropolitan/MR

The version sold in most of the European market takes the international cartridge/converter.

The Metropolitan version sold everywhere else takes the Pilot cartridge/converter.

From the ads on Amazon India, it looks like the pen probably takes the Pilot cartridge/converter, but that depends on vender and where they got the pen.

 

Look at the cartridge that came with the pen. Is it Pilot or is it an international type?

[aych001]

Pilot makes two versions of the Metropolitan/MR

 

The version sold in most of the European market takes the international cartridge/converter.

 

The Metropolitan version sold everywhere else takes the Pilot cartridge/converter.

 

From the ads on Amazon India, it looks like the pen probably takes the Pilot cartridge/converter, but that depends on vender and where they got the pen.

 

Look at the cartridge that came with the pen. Is it Pilot or is it an international type?

It came with an Aerometric converter. The box has the words 'Pilot MR' written and they were manufactured in Japan as per the label. Edited August 28, 2017 by aych001

[BT_Summers]

Guys I appreciate your replies but I would like to add some things Iearnt by searching the Web.

 

Firstly, the website of Cult Pens states "There are two versions of the international standard cartridge - 'short' 38mm cartridges and 'long' 73mm cartridges. Most pens will accept either, and many are designed to accommodate two short cartridges - one in use and one spare in the barrel. This should ensure that you don't run out of ink unexpectedly. A few very compact fountain pens can only use the short version."

 

Secondly, the cartridge in question (https://www.amazon.in/dp/B00LOETFS4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_PtePzbXX9N9CK) has 'Large Size Standard Cartridge' mentioned on the pack.

 

Thirdly, the product page on Cult Pens again states that the Pilot MR accepts International Standard cartridges. After some more research I found out that the Pilot Metropolitan (US variant) only accepts proprietary cartridges.

 

 

Your first point is correct.

 

The second point is that there is also a mini or slim Waterman cartridge.

 

Your third point is correct, the Pilot only accepts Pilot cartridges, as confirmed by Chrissy.

[cattar]

Both versions usually come with a squeeze converter and both are made by Pilot Japan.

 

What's the diameter of the hole at the end of the converter?

Is it narrow like an international or wider like a Pilot?

 

I have an international but no measuring tape. My Pilot pens are out on loan right now, but I remember them as having wider mouths.

Perhaps another poster can measure the mouths of their cartridge/converter.

 

Remember you can use that converter to pull ink from a bottle, and that's a cheaper way to refill a pen than with cartridges.

 

Also, ink can be pulled from cartridges with an art syringe, so if you get a size that doesn't work, you can still get to the ink. Or get another pen.

 

 

eta. no measuring tape

Edited August 28, 2017 by cattar